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I give up on that one... click here - it works, too....

Mr. B... :blink: That about sum it up for you?

Dang it!! My cool picture didn't show up. Let me try again...

Mr. Hammeroni, are you a Time Lord?

I think the employees would agree with you, there, DL!!

Please forgive me in advance, O fellow GSCers... I am not well. I am giving you fair warning : http://www.poodleturds.com/ I am not a poodle:

But you've had a lifetime of experience living PFAL, right, Mr. B? Just pick out the good stuff and spit out the bad... Nothing wrong with that... Just like with greasespot - you decide what's good and what's bad. No pressure.

How about a poodle wine cozy for your Pinot Coco?

From Off Shoots Collections to Daleks... not to far from the original topic, when you really think deeply about it. I bet this is the real reason I feel so at home around here... it's not the communal twi experiences... it's all the scifi fans! Anybody have a sonic screwdriver?

I am reminded of the reasons Dennis Leary gave for the meat we eat: whatever is cute (otters, cats, puppies) we don't eat... But when we see a stupid ugly COW or PIG (not cute) we say... MMMMMMmmmmMMMMMmmmm.... meat!

I think all of this started to hit me while taking one of my last pfal classes before the new class... I was sitting there in the back row trying to stay awake, or at least not let anyone see me fall asleep. I had my Companion Bible in front of me and started reading the notes next to the verses vp was reading - and it was almost verbatim. I thought that was strange, but in my sleep deprived state (I was working early every morning after working crew on the class) I figured it didn't matter too much.

Yeah!! Another Dr. Who fan!! (us scifi geeks are coming out of the woodwork!) Hooray!!! :

But then again, wasn't it fear of consequences that kept a lot of us from doing the right thing while involved with twi? My motivation not to steal from others is not that I may go to prison, it is because stealing from someone else would hurt them. I do not murder because of the harm it would cause others, not because I am afraid that I will get the death penalty. I also do not worship anything before God because it would hurt God's heart, and I love Him. As stated above, the motivation of a child is determined by fear of consequences inflicted by parents... this is how they learn initially what is right and what is wrong... Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster [to bring us] unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. Since we are no longer under the law, we should be growing up into love as our motivation.... loving God, and loving your neighbor as yourselves. Not that we shouldn't fear conequences for our actions, but our motivator should be love.

The squirrel hit it on the head again!! I think (at least for now) the best thing I can do for myself is spend some serious time developing who I am and my own relationship with God - not the pre-packaged "relationship" any religion says that I "should" have. God is pretty big, I think He has room for an individual daughter like me who doesn't fit into the regular mold. After all He made me.

Interesting to note that the two great commandments laid out by Jesus Christ both involved love (agapeo.) But it does say to agapeo ourselves, too... Never really thought about that before. Jesus Christ is the only one who really walked the law perfectly, and he himself did not necessarily keep the letter of the law as described by the religious authorities of the time (at least in how they perceived that law.) His walk was based on the heart of the law, described in the two great commandements. Interesting... If we were able to agape ourselves, would we let people walk all over us?

I feel EXACTLY like that, Mr. Squirrel... If I am going to start attending another group, then it will be ANOTHER group. Something at the base of the doctrine of twi was wrong, or it wouldn't have produced the fruit it did through the abuse of its followers. Why would I want to attend somewhere that was based on the same doctrines? If the only thing different than twi is a few small details and the fact that they hate twi as it is today, it just doesn't make sense to head in that direction... Seems like that ministry would mainly be based on hatred for one thing or the other. Just thinking out loud, here... I figure if you are happy where you are, then stick with it - it must be meeting some need for you.

Oh, Topper! That sucks! Well, now you know you are no longer in a cult because you are thinking about who YOU really are! It's a fun journey, my friend...

I don't know personally if they do not recognize Memorial Day at all. I do know it is inadvertantly celebrated (if not with pomp and ceremony) by every member of staff who gets to have a day off! (poor things) Anywho... It may have something to do with honoring the dead. While Veteran's day honors living veterans, Memorial Day is specific to honoring those that have died. Since twi seems to have the idea that the only way you die is by breaking fellowship with God and since the dead are not alive, putting flowers on the graves of the fallen could be considered akin to worshipping the dead. I'm just thinking out loud... this is, of course, not from any official source at twi.... Like Mr. B, I don't remember one way or another> Here's information on the history of Memorial Day: http://www.usmemorialday.org/backgrnd.html Anyone else able to confirm/deny the celebration of Memorial Day at twi?

Thanks, Roy!!

Are the sins we committed, sins others committed against us, and bad things that happened to us in this life remembered in the next one? I have been taught this doctrine on several occassions within twi - can anyone come up with backing? I can't make it logical to myself as hard as I try... Jesus remembered his crucifixion in his new body, he didn't forget what had happened to him. The only verse I have heard to back this train of thought has been Isa 35:10: And the ransomed of the LORD shall return, and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads: they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away. I never thought this meant that we wouldn't remember the sorrow and sighing, just that we wouldn't experience them any more. Thoughts?

I think this falls within the duties of robots as decribed in Asimov's fourth law: "A robot may not harm humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm" Therefore, it is our duty to expose the "faulty program." Humans may be the ultimate example of artificial intelligence... and apparently our programming can be changed and/or upgraded.

I wonder if Iron Chef ever had Poodle as a theme ingredient?

For those of you non-scifi geeks, I will provide translation (from Wikipedia, because I thought I would mess it up: In science fiction, the Three Laws of Robotics are a set of three rules written by Isaac Asimov, which almost all positronic robots appearing in his fiction must obey. Introduced in his 1942 short story "Runaround", although foreshadowed in a few earlier stories, the Laws state the following: A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. A robot must obey orders given to it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law. Later, Asimov added the Zeroth Law: "A robot may not harm humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm"; the rest of the laws are modified sequentially to acknowledge this.

Thanks to all of you who have posted on this thread... It echoes a lot of questions that I have had regarding the subject of women. The information from the Jewish line of reasoning has helped a lot! Something I was thinking about with Miriam (backtracking a long way back in the thread, I know) is that she may have been influenced by the myth of Sargon - meaning that this story may have sprung to mind when it came time to save her brother. The same story may also have influenced the decision of Pharoah's daughter to keep Moses rather than having him killed. Also, the serpent in voodoo represents change and transformation. I have also read (somewhere) that the snake is considered the giver of knowledge in voodoo.... interesting in the concept of the transformation of Adam and Eve after their temptation. As for the status of women within the church - it always rubbed me the wrong way when I heard LCM teach that the only reason God was talking to Deborah and not a man was because there were no men who had risen up to hear... As if God was somehow insulted that He had to speak to a WOMAN. Basically, modern Christianity has removed the woman from any place of authority within the church - I think it has a lot to do with the Eve being the one who brought the downfall of humanity. She was the cause, right? Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. 1Cr 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 1Cr 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit. 1Ti 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. If she was indeed the cause - why doesn't it make her responsible for the downfall of man? (Not that I'm saying she should have eaten the fruit - or whatever it was...) But Adam was the one who seems to bear the responsibility according to scripture. After all, he was only tempted by his wife, while she was tempted by the serpent who was more crafty than any beast of the field. My point? That because Eve (erroneously) is so tied into the fall it is easy to manipulate the image of women into the temptesses, the cause of suffering for man, and those that must hold their tongues when speaking of spiritual matters. And as far as the question of Jesus Christ being married (to Mary Magdalene or any other woman) what are the implications if it was true? And I really don't know if it is or not - I wasn't there... The implications would be staggering. Sex would not have the stigma attached to it in our society - it would not be viewed as something base and vile - instead it could be viewed as something holy.... It would place wives at a greater position for respect, because if Jesus Christ didn't NEED a woman in his life, then why would anyone else who is truly desiring to be spiritual need one? If he is the "second Adam" then who is his Eve? The best explanation I have heard in support of the case that he was never married is that his Eve was Israel, the bride of Christ... but if he was to be tempted in all things like as we are and yet without sin, it almost follows that he would need to have that woman that he cared about as much as Adam cared about Eve... Been thinking a lot about the Shekinah as the female aspect of God, too. Thanks so much for the information. God is represented with some female characteristics in the Bible, and it makes sense for there to be a female side to God. Since God is the Creator, He/She/It(?) would sensibly have both characteristics of Mother and Father... As Father, He provides seed (an outside influence on the "egg".) As Mother, She provides the egg (the basics from which life is produced. Just thinking, or as you said.... running AmOK AMOK AMok!!

Hey, now! Goldenseal is some good stuff! (tastes like dirt, looks like dirt, but man, it works!) But for double pneumonia, you should probably head to the hospital or something...