ChattyKathy

You got that right!

Dot, the times these dogs are babies like mine was are rare I would think. Just from my gut, nothing to back up my thoughts though. Now I must return to packing.

His daddy (heehee) was in a coma recently and I wondered about how it would all come out, but thankfully the man recovered fully and that is a blessing, the doggie has his daddy back now.

Well the one I love next door looks me in the face when he is on all fours. I think it's just the size that makes me feel he could be dangerous actually. But I swear if they asked me to take him I would in a second. He is just wonderful. I love the thing to pieces.

My neighbor has a Great Dane that I am in love with. I swear I gravitate towards dangerous dogs I think. :unsure: hmmm....come to think of it I do the same with men....

I just love folks that cry race card. They can be dangerous as has been proven. But the thing most concerning is they have a jaw hold of a shark and that is something that only one hit and you could be dead. I loved ours though but still we were no fools regarding her either. We treated her with a healthy mix of respect and fear.

Chas, ask Rick how I pronounce guitar also.

We owned a brother and sister from five weeks old but had to get rid of the brother to someone that lived out in the sticks due to danger signs. The girl that we kept until going into the wc and then giving to a man that lived on a ranch was the gentlest thing possible. I don't know what that contributes but it's my personal experience of the breed.

Perhaps it was F2 envy.....

And I'm glad you enjoyed it Chas and David. Very cool pictures David, beautiful.

Paw, thank you so much for the learning.

Bill, if I knew that was the practice being taken on by the majority I would not be able to handle this stuff anymore. I hope to gawd that is not the norm, I just hope to gawd it is not.

Hap, I'll be honest I'm not sure what you're saying to me in your last post but you brought up some good points. And to make a person disadvantaged over critical things due to language is inhumane of me to push at. And maybe I'm just in a witchy mood today. After that caller going on and on in another language like she just assumed the English speaking voice message that began provided a buzz...leave message now....would actually understand her. That was what torked me off. That it was assumed I an English speaking person would just automatically understand what the heck she was saying. And then before I returned home and posted my last posts today I went into a Wendy's to get some chili and just sit and be quiet with myself and think. That chili and coke was at the cost of my standing behind someone who could not speak English trying to order something to eat. The desert I didn't order but was able to enjoy was when the English speaking person on the other side of the counter said "do you speak English" to which the person shook their head no and then she said "find someone who speaks your language and come back". She then looked past the person to me and said may I help you please and the person ahead of me moved out of the line. I had mixed emotions. One of sadness for the person unable to order a meal and one of admiration for the person making minimum wage on the other side of the counter for having the balls to remind this non-English speaking person that it is still America. At least today it is still America. There has to be a balance I know. And of late I'm just torked at the injustice to this country put upon us by our own dang whatever it is. When will we consider the huge costs to our country? When we're a third world country? Am I wrong, am I unchristian, am I just fed up with so much of this that I can't shut my mouth right now. I don't know I'm just mad that I do know. Kathy

What concerns me about the PC thinking I'm referring to is not having the balls to just flat out say NO you cannot keep taking from us and not giving in return NO you cannot expect me to give you more than we are giving our legal citizens right now. If we really are the richest nation in the world (questionable as each day passes) that seems to tell the world we are there to support them. Why? Why are we there to support the rest of the world? Why are we bound to that? PC people that I am referring to think nothing of giving us away lest we not appear humanitarian. And they do it at the cost of the ones paying their wages. It is okay to say NO we will not support you No we will not be the first to jump in and lend a hand NO we will not be the first to protect you from your own insane leaders. I do not agree with policing the world. I do not agree with fixing the world. I do not agree with imposing our democracy on the world. Obviously I do not agree with GWB then. I fall back to being too nice with people, I don't want to hurt their feelings, I don't want to add to their suffering already. Then guess what happens to me, I have given away myself when I didn't have me to give in the first place. I have laid on my back and taken it because I thought I had to give. Bullcrap! I don't have to give a dang thing that I don't want to give. And I don't want some feel good PC politician giving me away either. And I really do agree with you Hap so you keep that day marked dear man. You are a good guy! excie, You'll not find me in the line to tell you that you erred in raising your son. I have an idea why he was so important to you and why you would fight to protect and love and offer him a life you didn't have. I have an acquaintance who I am helping thru a class right now. She makes it very hard on me because she can't meet with me when it's convenient with me because her daughter has to take her nap at a certain time and she has to go to bed after being read to and given a snack at a certain time. I want to tell this mother she is setting her daughter up for a terrible fall but I don't know this mother that well and haven't felt I had the access to without it hurting the bigger need, the assistance she needs right now. She is the example of making that little toddler more important than her own growth and I can see it is making a huge wedge between her and her husband. All three of them are going to suffer. You want better for your son than you had for yourself. That is not the same excie, not to me anyway dear.

Well poop on a stick! I swear that light tap was downright PC of me! Barf me out the door on that one Hap. I agree with your post so won't bother to repeat it, ain't I taking the lazy way out on that one. <_< And if I could trust the folks making decisions for my life it would be an entirely different thing than what we have in real life. We know it isn't to our best interest that many decisions are made by those above us. And the PC folks are downright dangerous in office, just downright dangerous.

What I was going for in that email that I posted was it should not be necessary to offer a button for any other language in this country except English. If you can't speak it then you have two options: learn how or get someone to interrupt it at you own expense not someone else's. As to the other stuff I could and should have left it out of the post, it would have stood alone by itself and been more to the subject here. So CW, no worries mate I reckon.

This is most certainly a tough subject but I think that the option to spank (which I define as a light tap, not a beating) should not be taken away from the parent. It allows control inside our homes that is no one business but the parent and the child. Now of course abuse is entirely different and anyone that knows me on this forum knows I am intimate with every form of abuse there is so I certainly am not condoning it and I would assume that would be realized. It's just the taking over our free will that makes my head hot.

Brother....allow me to follow your ministry of words....I promise I'll be a good and faithful follower....

CW, I just love how you knew my intentions of that post. And that you are so well versed in mine and my husband’s family of serving since WW2. And of course there has only been one war in your and my life time so how could it have been anything other than related to Iraq. As well we all Jesus Christ is completely confined to this war in Iraq only. Thanks for the enlightenment! Kathy

excie....you made me laugh dear! And if I am one that you were speaking of as being so sure of myself on this I would love to have your input.

I don't know if I could add too much to this right now but I just had to get this off my chest. Yesterday someone left me a message in another language at work. I understood nada of what she said. I deleted the message and have no intention of returning her call. Then this morning bowtwi sent me the best email I've seen on this type thing. Which I will post now minus the pictures it included. This is how ALL business phones SHOULD be answered! GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA Press "1" for English. Press "2" to disconnect until you learn to speak English And remember... only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.

Hap, I wasn't using you as an example on the boundaries or running wild but thank you for your replies. Also what I was referring to ownership being given over to the child is we already have in place a system that will allow a child to sue their parents, which perhaps was appropriate in some cases but it also reflects allowing the children to make such decisions gives them ownership. A child is not mature enough to make such choices on their own. Nor should we raise them like the world revolves around them. I was thrilled to have my only son after having been told I would never be able to have children. But in my gratefulness I did not make him the master of the home because I was so thankful to have a child. I see that in homes today where they make the child the most important thing in the family. That isn't healthy for anyone, especially the child. Those were my thoughts on that one and I could have elaborated I know. Satori is enjoying you I hope you know. But you know he'll be back to reclaim don't ya.

Excellent points brought up since I last looked in. And Hap, thanks for your post to me regarding my love for children. A swat to get the attention of a child on the verge of making a dangerous choice certainly isn't the same as beating some sense into them. I've never subscribed to beating sense into anyone, although twi mentally beat some sense out of me. I agree it's a back door way of gaining control of our home life (my way of seeing it). When there is far more evil efforts going unchecked right under these politicians noses. Experience is a big deal and the lack of it for those making decisions should impact things. I'm glad to see we pay attention when we go to the poles. My mother rarely physically punished me. Although I remember quite well the times she did. I was acting up quite badly and she made me go out and chose my own switch to be used on my butt. I brought in a willowy thing that stung like heck on my backside. The next time I was given the joy (yeah right) of choosing my instrument of punishment I brought in the biggest log I could carry. My mom never used that form after that, it made her realize the damage it caused me. Did I turn into a rotten child/adult? Well I don't consider myself one. I adore my mother and have told her if I were one tenth the mother as she then I would be thankful. My son was swatted less than half a dozen times his whole life. He understood words being told to him and acted on them so just didn't need to have his attention gotten in that way. But had he needed it I would have done so, but not with a switch. All this doesn't teach anything, it just relays some of my thoughts.

There is some wisdom in that idea, very interesting. The name of the country escapes me now but I had a co-worker that described what she had to go thru to gain access for her parents to leave their country to come here for a visit. It was harder for them to get out of their country than it was to gain access into ours. I'm not sure what that tells us but I suspect something.