ChattyKathy

Back for a quick moment. I can a thread pretty well so I'm gonna try not to do that on this one. :unsure: But before we go back to topic I'm older than you and I like your avatar. Now I'm gone again.

I meant some time in the ministry. :P Have to leave again.

So you have some time in I can see. :) I need to finish dinner but we will have that other chat in time I'm certain. :B)

Larry, I agree with others on not making this a trinity thread so will expound on that another time where and when appropriate. But as to thinking more or less of Jesus Christ based on if he were a part of God in flesh form my experience with twi was they said with their lips they respected and wanted to be like him (or do greater works was stated also) but they conveniently forgot him when it served their purposes to teach things that would not be his example. I was a part of that group for over 18 years and saw a few things. I don't know you or when you were a part of them so I can't speak for what was taught when you were a part of them. Jean, Without question he was of Mary and had corruptible flesh and agreed, he could have lived to be an old man had he not done his Father's will.

You are correct about trinity not being in the bible and even the Catholic faith admits that. But there is true essence of all three in one God and that was something that I think twi missed out on because they lessoned the importance of who Christ was even when they beat their chests at how we were to be like him. They left him out of the equation when it suit their doctrine because Christ would not have done the things they did and taught were right to do to each other. I'm glad you go by the Word and not the false teachings of twi.

Very cool Hope. And I can't wait to meet her someday. It was really neat talking to you the other night also.

I would like to add that if folks are relying on what twi taught about the trinity they didn't know what they were talking about.

I guess we could all talk a lifetime of what we think on stuff couldn't we? :) I'm not sure God ever meant it to be so confusing for us but then again I think He wanted us to think. Can you imagine Him scratching His head at times when reading our posts.

Interesting story Socks, thanks. And interesting about the genetic diversity provided by both male and female and the need for it.

I copied and pasted your post and sent it to Ted Ferrell via email to see if he knows it perhaps.

I must admit the idea of John giving birth once was funny enough but three times.

It was hard to watch at first but I'm glad I stayed with it. (are you addicted to youtube my friend)

We are still online in chat but it's not being recorded. Look into it if you can before next week, it really is a blast to be online with folks like this. David has now joined us and is now talking, it is neat.

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Jean, You must not have noticed that John was logged in last. :D I also believe the heritage of 'son of David' came from Mary's side. you caught it as I was typing to you.

cman, My concern with considering things backed up only by one man's opinion (the author, not you) is good if I want to explore where folks have gone in their understanding and perhaps even be able to view what I hold fast to from another perspective so yes there is worth to words other than what I consider God breathed. But I can't imagine myself being pulled away from what fits in my head and heart according to what God wanted us to understand. And some things take you away from who the ultimate author is. I've fallen to the worship of man and seen the depths of despair because of it. I've never seen despair by following God and that is a safe and sure direction for me. Even when I blow it which is about every other second I still know there is somewhere to return to. I might need more structure in my thinking than others do and that would account for why I cleave as I do. Or perhaps with added confidence I will be able to venture further out without fear of sinking. But for now to hold fast to what I have proven in my own life is a sure thing and one I love. Kathy

You are such a gentle presence there RG. Looking forward to hanging out again. But tonight I won't be on the cell so it will be much more enjoyable for me.

I use to cringe when VP taught about life beginning at first breath because as a woman that has had life inside of me it was more than a head shaker for me. It made my brains hurt. :)

We only got that first good rain but nothing since. That wasn't even a hint of enough rain. We need more much more.

Most kewl! They have a test you can do and find out if you can be heard. And I heard myself.

Thanks WW and Larry. I think life begins at conception so I would lean towards holy one rather than holy thing. Must make something to eat now. Catch y'all later.

Fred making his partner look good Fred making his partner look good Geo, The first is your link and the second mine. You have the wrong tags in front and back is all that I see is different. You need to post your link in that option that says Insert Link with the green plus sign on it.

I need to head out to church now so will pick up where I just left off but so far I see there was conversation as to if Christ was of God or Joseph. I don't see anything in the Word to support that even being a question. Christ was of God I believe to be loud and clear in scripture. And since God is holy then Christ would be holy as well. As to the process of a flesh and blood person having half participation in the bringing on a newborn I believe the blood might cover that. If so then the blood would have come from the seed rather than the home in which the child grew for 9 months. I need to run so and am already moving away from here in thought so I trust I didn't sound too confusing in my quick explanation. See y'all.

I think I need to reread the whole thread probably because I did notice it moved from 'holy' to a few sidebar topics (still related) but I wasn't sure if 'holy' had been satisfied in the thread yet.

Will someone remind me what the last point was pertaining to this thread? I too got offtrack so don't take this as criticism. I just don't know where the thread left off.