ChattyKathy

LCM, I'm going to go against the grain for the most part in this particular forum and say it took balls. I know she would have been touched by it. And so do you. After all who knows better than you that you're darned if you do and you're darned if you don't. You did it for her! I get it Craig and thank you for that! Kathy

I already know that if I were not married I'd still need a man in my life. That's my personal preference and the reasons are many. And I know that sounds dependent on my part, and I can't dispute there isn't that in the mix but the bigger picture is I prefer the companionship and I adore the protection and care. As to ladies not having to survive and therefore not be able to understand being the only one. Oh MJ dear girl, I've been alone in a room full of people. I've survived things no one should have had to. But I just haven't done it as a single adult.

I can understand the concept of not having to answer to anybody else even though I went from my mother to my husband so have little personal experience. Yet I'm allowed more room now than ever before while in twi and for that I'm very grateful. And I no longer feel it's his way or no way so I guess much has been learned on his part since our departure from the farm down the road.

Nope Ala, I don't think that is him.

Sudo, You have outdone yourself. BRAVO! I'm so glad you learned all that, yup I know and I will. --> And get this, you know what that brat did? Well he stopped singing that bird song and immediately started singing Everybody Was Kung Fu Fighting. I swear I think I liked that dang bird song better. Can you make him stop Sudo? Ala, Let me see if I can find something on that guy and maybe I'll know if the husband I was talking about.

MJ, Thank you for your great consideration of my post as evidenced in the things you spoke of. And I've never been a single mom or even a single adult for that matter which limits my understanding as fully as you. So what's left for me in such things is ask myself if I believe in a standard of some sort and since I've been a Christian my entire life I've nearly always turned to that direction. But I fail miserably some moments and then others I'm on top of my game and know it. What I've found in the past few years is balance. Which is part of why you think I may sound wise and sure of who I am. And MJ those words were very gracious and I don't feel quite up to the calling but thank you for them. I suspect there must be a survival skill that comes in somewhere along the way to be a single parent. To have to take on the full responsibility. I admire parents that do it every day and add to the good of mankind as they do. The role of a wife and mother has changed so much that even that would have a different look to us looking in. I can't recall when I was real young the parents running about with the kids to this sports practice or that function. And that's one simple example. But I watched my mother be the stay home type until I got into high school then she went to work and I being the eldest picked up some of the slack and I recall thinking that she'd done a great deal more around the house than I'd ever given her credit for. And the house didn't run as smoothly once she was working but that was necessary, it was called work to help make ends meet. I guess for me the rub on the movement was being told I couldn't enjoy the protection of a man. And there's more to all this but I have already derailed it so shall stop on that. I'm touched that you found something of worth in my words so that you could fit some pieces together for yourself. Ain't that fun when we do that for each other? I just love it! :)-->

Boaz was one of the relatives of Elimelech, husband of Naomi; a wealthy Judean, living at Bethlehem in Judah (Ruth ii. 1). He was one of the kinsmen of Ruth; as such he had the privilege of redeeming the family estate sold by Naomi after Elimelech's death. Therefore when Ruth appealed to his kinship, he redeemed the property (Ruth iii. 9, iv. 3). In consequence of this he had to marry Ruth, in order "to raise up the name of the dead" (Ruth iv. 5, 10). Their son Obed was, according to tradition, the grandfather of David (Ruth iv. 22). I'm busy at work but hopefully this will help.

I failed to locate it but several years ago I read a one page article in People about Bonnie Raitt. And as small as that article was it included her then husband (my failed name search) who it stated had taken a class with this cult called twi. (LCM knew about it) As Sudo goes there goes the thread . :)--> PS...Rick has almost stopped singing that awful song, almost that is! Which scares me cause that means there's something next.

She was outstanding as were so many folks. But there were other such women but I guess I should try to avoid derailing. For once! -->

My favorite song possibly in the whole wide world is "Marry You" by BB King and Eric Clapton. Heaven on earth with a slice of lime it is. I would love to have seen him in concert.

Oh Geo....her bottleneck slide....oh yes!

In a heartbeat!!!!! ;)-->

Thank you for sharing as you have, somehow it helps this all make some sense. :(-->

Bonnie Raitt. Now that woman can play some blues guitar. And that don't count what comes out of her mouth. She's been mixed in with BB King and Muddy Waters and loved Stevie Ray Vaughan. What taste! Okay ala, so maybe I didn't give him enough of a chance. :)-->

Nah, I never had one of the dolls, almost bought one as an adult but thought it was silly so didn't. I never knew anyone named "irisheyes" so we probably didn't know each other. :)--> And if you hope I'm not the same Kathy you knew then I think I'm hoping I'm not also. But I actually don't talk that much which a couple may differ with but I'm the quiet one oft times. In school though I was into talking I guess because I've written I will not talk in class so many times I've no idea. And so it just seemed fitting since this was a discussion forum to name me that. Yeah, I thought that pretty awesome myself when I'd learned she had asked him to marry her. She knew or learned what she could work within and she took a risk and accomplished her hearts goal. But I love the protection idea the male offered in the relationship. And she was just plain good people and it was great to get to know her wasn't it? :)--> The subject of women's liberation is one I've been on both sides of the issue on. There was much good accomplished in freeing women in their thinking about having and pursuing personal goals. And in ways of wages and things of importance. And there were pioneers who did sacrifice to bring about improvement. The ways our mothers or their mothers lived is quite different than the way the majority of us women live now (in this country I speak). So there is much I'm thankful for but then there's that attitude that makes me want to slap the woman it's coming from. That part insults me as a woman when she seems to think I'm not allowed my freedom of thinking in regards to being a woman in the relationship. Which has nothing to do with doctrinal does it? :D-->

The best I understand it is Ruth went to Boaz in a forbidden area (the threshing floor) where she was to lay at his feet. The Judean culture provided for the man to cover his wife's head with his mantle or robe and the skirt was a part of a robe best I understand. And this was performed during the marriage ceremony. It signified the husband's protection over the wife. By Ruth lying at Boaz's feet she was showing him she was completely submissive to him. And in this act she was asking for his protection, in essence she was asking him to marry her. And she knew she had caught his eye. Boaz then took on the role of kinsman redeemer by marrying her and raising children in the name of Ruth's husband's bloodline. Which I understand would have been cut off. Boaz went through all the proper customs regarding if he could marry her also. But hopefully the little I understand will be of help.

I couldn't listen to him often to be honest. He's a bit too sweet for me but I thought it pleasant music. Now Rod Stewart, ugh!

Sudo, thank you. Listening now. Very nice Ala!

Ala, I can't say that I have heard of him. You sound impressed so I imagine he's quite good. You could never like anything that would be askew now would you? And what would your definition of askew be may I ask? (I ask her because she and I have to do that on occasion, she asks me much more though so I imagine I make less sense between the two of us) My definition would be whacky. Act2, My but you have embarrassed me as did Ted and Shell with their incredibly kind words. But you know me and I certainly would never call me a singer. :(--> I do however think I have a hat but it's not as you described. And I'm not done searching ya know. I do have a wonderful black felt one with black fur trim all around it but its not gala formal probably. This year though I've found a couple I absolutely wish I didn't have to sell but heck you can't be buying your own dang merchandise or it kinda defeats the whole purpose I reckon. --> Well we would still have loads of fun but making some money is kinda nice while were doing it eh! :)--> Ted, Don't go thinking the prunes word got passed me. :D-->

Hey! I'm the moon. :o--> Okeedokee then. ;)-->

Goodness y'all....:o-->

Well, EXCUUUUUUSE MEEE!! George Sudo sounds kinda rough sometimes but he's a softie inside and I doubt meant to be hurtful. And morning to you SaintGeorge.

Can I be the sunshine...heeheehee, okay then I'll be the moon. -->