James French

modcat5: Yes, you figured right. I haven't been here in a long time. We were rubbing each other the wrong way for a while. Thanks. I don't know if this will go to you or not, as its locked as you said? James French

Regarding my SIT. I have diverse tongues; and I do not understand modern French or Archaic French. My long time friend since 8th grade lead me into the Way and also broke the so called rules by leading me into tongues the night before the last seesion of PFAL as I was concerned if I could do it. I did it fine and no problem in the class. He also many years later heard me SIT and he recognized it as old French, as he knows French and his mother is from Brussels. I never studied French other than some French Art terms because I am an artist and art conservator/restorer. I do recognize some tongues I do as guttural, African like, or chinese or some kind of Asian languages. I have done many I don't and can't even guess what they are? I think that diversity of tongues has to do with faith, desire and of course God's business as to what is uttered, as the spirit gives the utterance. This is no counterfeit. If you think so, that is your problem.

Mr. T-bone: A. Yes, I think we both assumed things. Also I think each person's mind can not only misconstrue things the other person is stating, feeling etc., but also trigger emotions in both himself and conversely on the other party in the communication. When you multiply this with all the participants such as here in this forum; you have a pot that is easily stirred and can boil over as buzz words stimulate certain responses or feelings in individuals. One thing that will not bother on person may open up woulds and cause a person to assume or misconstrue motives, intent etc. B. Regarding intuition, the workings of the holy spirit (the gift of God); the holy spirit functions in believers in many ways not only in manifestations, but also just by revelation manifestations of word of knowledge, wisdom and discerning of spirits. God communicates to individuals in different ways, but even in a single individual in many ways, including myself. Revelation itself can come in so many ways and combinations from everything from still small voice, to pictures, videos, feelings, intuition-like, pains in ministering to someone to communicate where the trouble is etc. These various revelations can mimic the five senses or be more intellectual-like. God can communicate how he determines through the holy spirit. We can see in scriptures many varied ways God communicates. God has principles, but we cannot put God in a box, he is too big for that. What works for one person may not work in another. C. All manifestations of holy spirit can be counterfeited. We also have the problems of not only listening etc. for God's communication, but also interpreting or confusing our body, soul and spirit and which is communicating, as spiritual feelings can and often do mimic physical stimuli; senses. Physical senses can also be misconstrued as "spiritual." Also the spiritual and physical stimuli may confirm and agree to a certain conclusion or conflict or be different. Ultimately, we should strive towards the closest relationship with God through the the spirit, the mind and cooperate in all manner of ways and do our best to constrain the bad aspects of the flesh. Confirmation request is a good thing to do with God. Regarding Seed of The Serpent etc.; I will just say, I have extensive research and experience in that area and personal knowledge and experience involving my own family., as well as others. Genesis 3:15 is significant. I have extensive materials and evidence in this area as well as personal experience that I cannot state publicly for certain reasons. I will just say, VPW and LCM were asking the right questions, but because of their own sin and lack of both research and knowledge and wisdom from above and lack of experience and understanding that they came to false conclusions. Unfortunately this has caused people to completely dismiss totally any research or inquiry into this neglected and important area of research and understanding. I have so much evidence and sources on this subject, as I have spent many years exploring this area (as well as many other subjects) that brought death to mankind and has conferred the dominion of the earth from man to Lucifer, the god of this world until he be taken out of the way into the Lake of Fire for eternity which appears to be very soon in coming to pass. One must be careful about throwing out the baby with the bathwater. D. Psychology; Scientific Methodology etc. You seem to rely extensively on scientific methodology, theory and knowledge. There is a place for such, but the spiritual truths certainly are absolutely more true then the soon to be world that will be melted with fervent heat, Even though many scientists are also believers, official science does not recognize the spiritual and scientific evidence is limited to that of the physical. Unfortunately because of the Dark side, much of the science has been used for wicked devices and purposes including mind control which I referred to in earlier post.The Dark side also has muddied the waters much with counterfeit and the demonic in all cultures and times since the beginning. The various mental diseases and symptoms comply with the characteristics and nature of specific demons, which I believe are cause of much of the mental illnesses in humans. Organic causes are also a problem, especially since the food, air, water, materials, vaccinations and even test swabs are loaded with poisonous and dangerous chemicals produced by the huge corporations. The elite so called globalists,, Luciferians or whatever you want to call them, they do exist and do have a dark agenda. E. I knew as a child that the JFK assassination official conclusions were completely false. I saw Oswald shot live on TV and lived through that period as well as many other traumatic times such as the Cold War, Vietnam, 911, The Gulf Wars etc. I learned about the globalists etc. in 1984 when I read None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen, That started a life-long quest of research into that area as well as the Kennedy assasinations etc. Satanism, Luciferianism, Sigil Magic; we are all carrying Federal Reserve Notes including the $1.00 bill with the symbol of Lucifer in the "All Seeing Eye" on the back of the bill. Thus, as symbolic images can carry demons, we are all potentially carrying demons around in our back pockets or purses. The wicked believe in and practice these type and other of "dark arts." I have done extensive research into history and still do, with a spiritual perspective and have studied law extensively and its origins and specifics and its corruptions, as well as Wars, multitude of conspiracies and events. The CIA coined the term 'Conspiracy Theory" to counter the JFK assassination researchers. I have 10 books on the JFK assassination alone. There are definitely conspiracies both great and small. To say there are not is to defy history, logic, human nature and Satan himself, who is the master of and instigator of evil conspiracies. Theory alone is not bad, there are many theories including the scientific ones. There are a multitude of theories, some good, some half true and some bad, false, or ridiculous and or stupid; such as "all the evil of the world is caused by Micky Mouse, not Lucifer, as Micky is the true God of this world!" "Be careful in watching Micky Mouse on TV and in Movie houses or anywhere for that matter, you could become possessed. Now I have ended in comedy which I find very important and healing and stress reducing. One last thing, possessed by Devil spirits is not favored now by many Christian researchers, because it implies total ownership. Jesus etc. casting out spirits caused people to be completely delivered. I believe as many do now that demonization is a better term. I believe that those who have crossed the line of separation to make Lucifer (or whatever name is used; Baal, Satan, etc.) as their god, are then owned (possessed) by Lucifer aka whatever...). Paul referred to a wicked person in the Book of Acts as a child of the Devil and therefore it is Biblical, as well as the old Testament various deities names and their followers; worshipers. James French, minister of The Gospel

T-Bone: To me, I think you treated me and my testimony as though it was not true, and that I am a liar, a braggart, a person who takes advantage of and victimizes others. You assumed I think like Wierwille. You assumed I act and think like LCM, you assumed I have bad motives and follow PFAL. You assumed my discerning of spirits was wrong. You presented yourself initially as a person that faked (lied) that they spoke in tongues in PFAL class. You assumed everything negative. You did not consider the results; A person walked for the first time in 7 years and other believers were involved. You failed to consider the situation I presented of my friend who had been raped and subsequent problem that he asked for prayer. You assumed the worst in everything I presented...

I frankly do not like some of the attitudes here, from especially T-bone, but also Bolshevik. You attacked me in first post. I have not been here since 2004. What a welcoming committee. When I was last here in 2004 no one was nasty, except one guy who did something very bad, he said something about a pipe bomb associated with me as though I was a terrorist which I am not. That is dangerous talk, not just not liking someone. That can get you investigated by the government and put on the no fly list or worse. The government can arrest people under the Patriot Act etc. and hold them without trial, without evidence indefinitely, and even taken to Gitmo. That is why I left this site. Now I come back and I get this kind of treatment. I am considering never coming back here? Twinky was very nice here. You guys are not... You attacked me personally, as though I am a liar, an idiot or whatever. I have seen great miracles. Twinky believed me and told her own story similar to mine about a person walking for the first time in years. Why didn't you attack her also, with very similar story of deliverance. I do not make up stories or BS. What I state actually happened. Then you want an explanation, how does one explain how God empowers miracles. If you people who doubt everything, automatically attack anyone by saying they follow Wierwille etc., it is ridiculous. Any person would be ....ed off at the attitude by you guys. I got angry and called you T-boner because your attitude was terrible. I did not expect this kind of welcome. Well, thank for for dumping on me...it reminds me of the bad things about the Way, and brought back terrible feelings. There is no compassion or love in your asinine attitudes. Rocky settled down a bit, unlike you two. But you T-bone are the worst here. Your welcome to greasespot was like a welcome from Lucifer Con Martindale, frankly. Believers in Christ according to scriptures have available the power of God by Faith, and you say NO?, at least as far as I am concerned. I am thankful to God for the privilege of seeing the great things God has done. It is not my power, but the power of God that I and others have seen. I dislike the bad things that The Way did to people. But your welcoming committee and attitude and attacks made me feel llike LCM treatment etc. That is my take on it, go ahead, your going to continue probably to make me feel like not coming back here, except for Twinky, who was nice, I got a rotten welcome here, like practically an FU know what? That is how it feels. It also reminded me of grade school bullies who made fun of me and my handicap. I was born 2 months premature, to which 99% of babies born at that stage die. I almost died countless times. My mother prayed to God and my survival was the first miracle in my life. Excess oxygen of 40% or over in an oxygen tent blinded my left eye and caused severe myopia in my right eye and nystagmus, eye movement that effects visual acuity, to which the doctors said I would never drive a car. I never took driver's ed in high school. My life changed when I applied principles from the Word I learned in the Way, and my eyesight improved by both my efforts and believing for healing as well as a good doctor who prescribed a contact lens and visual therapy instead of the Coke Bottle glasses to which I was oppressed by bullies as a child for, to the point I went from a bicycle, to a moped, to a motorcycle and finally I had a motorcycle and class 4 car license. Are you two proud of yourselves. I usually don't share these personal matters, but perhaps there is a small possibility that you may reconsider your attacks on me and the effect it has on me, right now, and learn something. I hate the word handicapped, as well as disabled, there is no good word for it. It brings back painful memories of the Bullies and their mean spirited manners and "treatment." I don't think you two could heal anyone or help anyone unless you change your attitude? Many people have been assisted by me as I have acted as a pastor, Bible researcher and evangelist etc. for decades, not through any auspices of the Way. That is fact, not fiction, not bragging. Done all without pay, benefits or salary part-time. Go ahead, attack me....I expect. What will you say now? By the Way, despite my history of vision problems, I am an artist, and musician, drums. And I earned a BA in Art with a concentration in printmaking. I am an expert on original prints, an art restorer and art conservator and have restored, framed and saved many hundreds of works of art on paper, documents and oil and water color paintings, including Rembrandt, Toulouse Lautrec, and a George Washington Letter and many more. I have presented many art shows of works of art from the 16th to the 21st centuries as well as I was represented by two art galleries in the San Francisco Bay Area as an artist. In addition I played drums with other musicians in local performances in The Way , as well as after leaving The Way I continued to play music with other believers and also played music in a church band without pay. I have dedicated my life to applying God's Word into culture in many aspects. It has cost me a lot of financial sacrifices; fact. I have studied law, history, Satanism and the New World Order and their goals and methods, as well as general and specific Bible research into many topics. These are facts, not bragging. I have spent a lot of time doing so over the decades, again without pay. I have worked part-time doing janitorial work to support myself and to keep the doors open to continue to preserve art, help people with the Word and to continue to research, play music and support all these endeavors which has cost me a lot of money over the many decades, Fact. I have made lots of personal sacrifices to continue in these endeavors, which I believe are important. I dislike this site, it reminds me of The Way Ministry, and brings back terrible memories to me and its a bummer. I will most likely be leaving this site for good. Congratulations; you have succeeded in sending me packing, Like LCM did to John Schoenhiet for merely writing a paper on Adultery. I merely gave testimony of what God empowered and what I experienced and witnessed. You could not accept my testimony. It was the truth, it really happened as I said. No bragging, just what happened. James French, minister of the Gospel

I never liked the phrase "All nine all the time." That is ridiculous. Human beings cannot do anything all the time but inhaling and exhaling. T-BONER IS FULL OF ASSUMPTIONS, MAKING A BLANK OUT OF HIMSELF. HE ASSUMES I TITHED WITH THE WAY A LOT, WHICH I SELDOM DID, MOSTLY IN THE EARLY YEARS. HE ASSUMES I AM WAY BRAINED, HE ASSUMES I AM A COUNTERFEIT BELIEVER AND A SHOW BOAT TYPE? NO, I JUST LIKE TO PRAISE GOD FOR ALL THE GREAT THINGS HE HAS DONE AND TELL PEOPLE ABOUT IT. HOPEFULLY SOMEONE WILL LEARN SOMETHING USEFUL AND BELIEVE GOD ALSO? WE CAN ONLY LEARN UNBELIEF AND FAKING SIT FROM T-BONER?

HEY T=BONER; IF YOUR GOING TO BE CONSISTENT, THEN YOU NEED TO ATTACK TWINKY FOR HER STORY ABOVE ABOUT THE MAN WHO WALKED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A LONG TIME ALSO AS YOU ATTACK ME FOR MY TESTIMONIALS AND EXPERIENCE. OTHERWISE, SHUT YOUR MOUTH PER SE (BAD WRITING IN OTHER WORDS). IF YOU LEAVE ME ALONE, I LEAVE YOU ALONE? WHY NOT AGREE TO DISAGREE AND NOT POST REGARDING EACH OTHERS POSTINGS. THAT WAY I DON'T HAVE TO WASTE TIME ON YOU, AND VISA VERSA.

Dear Twinky: Great story. Thanks for your supporting what I said. Now, if T-bone is going to be consistent, he needs to attack you about this story and claim that you are a Way supporter as he does to me. I dislike him for cause. I like you for cause also. God bless you!

HEY T-BONER: OH YE OF NO FAITH: I DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER TO YOU, BUT I WILL SAY IN BOLD TYPE; I STAYED IN THE WAY BECAUSE OF FRIENDS I DIDN'T WANT TO LOOSE, AND TO HEAR PROPHESY ETC. THE LOCAL FELLOWSHIP WAS SWEET AND KIND, AND LOVING. UNLIKE YOU! I STOPPED TITHING LONG BEFORE I LEFT IN 1987 ALONG WITH EVERYONE ELSE AT THAT TIME. WHY DON'T YOU ATTACK THOSE PEOPLE ALSO? MOST OF THEM PROBABLY "TITHED." MOST OF YOUR CLAIM TO FAME IS YOU FAKED SPEAKING IN TONGUES. THAT MEANS YOU LIED, YOU HAVE AND HAD NO CREDIBILITY. YOU WERE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT OTHERS THOUGHT OF YOU, THEN SEEKING HELP IN DOING WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS "I THANK GOD I SPEAK IN TONGUES MORE THAN YOU ALL," PAUL ADDRESSING THE WHOLE CHURCH AT CORINTH. YOU ARE A SPIRITUAL CUP-CAKE. AS FAR AS ALL THOSE PLACES YOU WENT TO FOR THE WAY, THAT SHOWS THE HYPOCRACY OF YOU ATTACKING ME, YOU ACTED 1000 TIMES MORE THAN ME AS A "WAY BRAIN" THAN I EVER WAS. I WAS NOT HAPPY WITH THE WAY, AND REVOLTED IN MANY WAYS WHILE STILL MANTAINING FRIENDS THAT I STILL HAVE WHO ALSO LEFT THE WAY WHEN I DID. WILL YOU ATTACK THEM ALSO, T-BONER? I CAN DISH OUT MORE THAN YOU CAN TAKE IF YOU CONTINUE TO TRASH ME? YOU HAVE SOME KIND OF BONE TO PICK WITH ME, WITHOUT REASON; ATTACKING MY CREDIBILITY AND CHARACTER. YOU KNOW WHERE YOU CAN STICK IT. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? I HAVE RISKED MY LIFE AND BEEN ATTACKED BOTH SPIRITUALLY AND PHYSICALLY MANY TIMES. LAST APRIL 14 2021 A CAR CAME 1/2 INCH FROM MY KNEES AND MY FEET WERE UNDER THE HOOD OF THE CAR. I THOUGHT IT WAS A FRIEND APPROACHING, MISTAKEN IDENTITY. GOD STOPPED THE CAR, AS IT HAD SPED UP ALL OF A SUDDEN AND I HAD NO TIME TO MOVE. THE SUN WAS ON THE WINDSHIELD SO I COULD NOT SEE THE PERSON. THE BEST DRIVER IN THE WORLD CANNOT STOP 1/2 INCH FROM A PERSON. ELECTRICAL WORKERS WERE TRIMMING TREES AND HAD BLOCKED THE LEFT LANE. THE CREW SAW THE WHOLE THING, THE CREW CHIEF WAS ASTOUNDED AS I WAS, AS HE SAID; I THOUGHT YOU KNEW EACH OTHER." WE WERE ALL ASTOUNDED! I SO MUCH SO THAT NO ONE GOT THE LICENSE PLATE #. GOT COVERED FOR MY MISTAKEN IDENTITY AND A MANIAC DRIVER. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, THEN YOU CAN ARGUE WITH GOD AND ANSWER TO HIM, T-BONER! GOD GETS THE GLORY. I DIDN''T DO A THING BUT WATCH IN AWE! GOD SAVED ME FROM EITHER DEATH OR VERY SERIOUS INJURIES. I AM SPEAKING THE TRUTH HERE. YOU ARE DESPICABLE LIKE LCM WHO YOU REMIND ME OF. THE ONLY THING YOU CAN MANIFEST IS A PIMPLE; T-BONER!

T-BONER: YOU PAINT ME WITH A BROAD BRUSH LIKE VPW OR LUCIFER CON MARTINDALE! I HAVE NOT DEMANDED MONEY, TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF ANY PERSON, NOR SEXUALLY VICTIMIZED ANY PERSON WHATSOEVER. I HAVE HELPED PEOPLE AND YOU TRASH ME. THERE IS AN OASIS AROUND MY HOUSE FROM THE 2015 VALLEY FIRE. I PERSONALLY SAW GOD SAVE MOST OF MY TOWN I LIVE IN. GO TAKE A FLYING BLANK. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE BUDDY? JUST FAKE SIT. THATS YOUR CLAIM TO FAME. YOU HAVE YOU HELPED OR HEALED, OR COUNSELED, OR STAYED IN INTENSIVE CARE 24 HOURS A DAY PRAYING AND MINISTERING TO PERSONS AT DEATH'S DOOR AND THEY REVIVED, THANK GOD. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU DONE THAT, T-BONER? I JUST BELIEVE IN THE SCRIPTURES AND THE HOLY SPIRIT. YOU CAN GO STICK YOUR HEAD BACKWARDS UP THE CAVITY AND BREATH WHAT YOUR FULL OF, WHICH I DISCERN IS PROBABLY NOT HOLY SPIRIT, BUT UNHOLY SH-T

I had 3 PCR tests required before some surgeries. These substances as above damage the mucus membranes defense against viruses etc. and some of the substances can go into the brain and cause damage including calcification of the Penile gland, that is supposed to be the gland that revelation comes into according to some Western and Eastern beliefs etc. I became concerned again, as I remembered from years ago information about the Penile Gland and its calcification, preventing its proper functioning. Irrigardless, we don't need any damage to our brains. I wondered about it, then decided, I can still SIT, and I have a connection with God still. I am praying for hedge of protection and healing just in case though. The diabolical agents of evil are ever at it. God help us!

Christ said greater works than these shall ye do, and those that believe will speak with new tongues, lay hands on the sick and healing etc. All possible because of Christ in each believer, the sacred secret revealed to Paul, transliterated in the New Testament as "mystery" which is bringing a word from one language into another without translation. The Musterion in Greek means sacred or divine secrets. In the Greek culture there were two types of secrets, kruptos, concealed private matters, and Musterion. when you joined a religious group their sacred or divine secrets were revealed to you as you were initiated into and grew in understanding etc. God, the holy spirit and Paul chose to use the word musterion, as we are supposed to grow in understanding these sacred secrets that were hidden in God and revealed to the Apostle Paul directly by Jesus Christ. Jesus only revealed musterion once to his disciples in the Gospels period as was necessary, but hidden from the masses; Mar 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery (musterion; sacred or divine secret) of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: Christ in each believer spiritually makes all nine manifestations available to every believer by faith, and dependent upon desire to manifest them. All 27 usages are important in context, and are the core and essence of Paul's ministry, the significance of which was lost due to all Asia turning away from Paul, the subsequent centuries of corruption starting with Constantine in 325 AD at Council of Nicea when Jesus was declared the 2nd God, in 381 AD when the holy spirit was declared to be the 3rd God at council of Constatinoble, and the Catholic church and lack of understanding of the manifestations thereby and the translators adding the words gifts when not in the texts causing more misunderstandings and confusion. The manifestations are to be operated in the love of God, with no out of order stuff like everyone speaking in tongues, Kundalini spirits etc. should not be entertained whatsoever. There are sacred secrets of God and sacred secrets of the wicked, mystery of Babylon, musterion of iniquity. The other side are initiated by demons and fallen angels into sorcery/witchcraft, Satanic revelation etc. to Steal, kill and destroy and oppose the purposes and will of God. They are dedicated and are rewarded with riches, fame, and demonic powers and believe they will rule with Lucifer in the New World Order (actually The Lake of Fire). Satan lies to his own children. The fools that don't believe in the existence of the spiritual truths and ongoing warfare and powers on both sides, of two gods, dichotomy of the spiritual do not have a clue of what is really going on. The wicked create the wars, plagues and chaos in society, as the globalists want to and are committing genocide as they intent to kill 7 billion, 250 million people as they state on the Georgia Guide Stones, to have the population at around 500 million. Idiots deny the multitude of semi-secret and secret wicked musterion societies of the wicked; Skull and Bones, Council On Foriegn Relations, Masonic organizations, numerous Satanic and Luciferian worship groups, Communism etc. etc. The infiltration of churches, education, governments and the international organizations and control by the house of Rothschild of their central banks, about 125 or so, with only Iran, China, Pakistan and North Korea not being in their private hands. I am currently reading Project Soul Catcher, a Book about CIA mind control programs and techniques by Robert Duncan, a scientist who was involved in research in these programs and a victim of mind control. He uses "declassified" documents and information. I am about halfway through the book, and I have lost count of the number of mind control projects and mind control techniques. The technology is so advanced that it is astounding, the degree of evil that the CIA is involved in. The KGB and Chinese Communists etc. have/had their brain washing/mind control programs also. This is not "make believe or fantasy or delusions, these programs exist and the invasion of the sanctity of the mind and free will are a disgrace and totally evil. Now you don't have to have a real demon, you can have an "artificial demon voice" sort of speak, courtesy of the CIA etc. Different frequencies can be used to project live voice or recorded audio into a targeted subjects mind to even mimic the voice of God, what the CIA calls "The Voice of God Weapons." The book actually states that even though religious people can and are targeted, that a strong religious conviction can also be a defense against these attacks. But one example from the Book, page 138: "During rapid fire interrogation techniques, the person is visited by four fallen angels or demons. In summary, if the psychic assassin fails to kill their targets, the target is saved by God's angels,; they are usual Michael or Gabriel in the CIA's scripts for Christian faith subjects. Then basically they are menticized into complacency and zombification," Perhaps some of you with unbelief in God's manifestations "have been zombified?" That is tongue in cheek type comment, but who knows? This book is not easy reading, even though I have trained myself to read dark materials of the other side and still be able to sleep at night, but I recommend it as it is necessary to know the difference between not only God and Satan, but true inspiration from God and possible implanted by electronic warfare. CIA cannot do healing, only torture and mind control. They cannot do miracles such as I witnessed of the crippled walking, or other miracles I have seen delivered by the true God, such as my facing the 2015 Valley Fire with 2 volcanic-like fires about 600 ft. high, one on the left side of the mountain ridge I live below and the other on the right side. By speaking in tongues and working of miracles and faith, these two huge flames retreated within about 3-4 seconds of praying in tongues, and 3 more small areas of starting fires below the ridge were also dissolved in about the same time of praying for those areas in tongues and they dissolved. The rain came which many people as well as me were praying for, which pounded on my swamp cooler for 9 hours straight, which enabled the Fire Dept to take control of the fire and eventually put it out. There is an oasis around my house because of God's deliverance. Even the Fire Dept knows there were miracles in that fire. Other people also saw miracles occur in other areas close by me, including another believer never associated with The Way who is a friend of mine. So you those of little faith, or those Zombified, take a lesson here! Colossians 1:26-27 (KJV) 26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: 27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery (musterion) among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: G3466 (Mounce) μυστήριον mystērion 28x: a matter to the knowledge of which initiation is necessary; a secret which would remain such but for revelation, Mat 3:11; Rom 11:25; Col 1:26; a concealed power or principle, 2Th 2:7; a hidden meaning of a symbol, Rev 1:20; Rev 17:7. G3466 (Strong) μυστήριον mustērion moos-tay'-ree-on From a derivative of μύω muō (to shut the mouth); a secret or “mystery” (through the idea of silence imposed by initiation into religious rites): - mystery. Total KJV occurrences: 27

Well, a person could raise the dead literally in front of some people and they would not believe. Just speaking in languages not learned nor "made up or faked like T-Bone did, was enough for me. I wouldn't waste my time with some Tom Foolery thing. Well, everybody is going to give an account for their life. It would take a lot more than LCM. VPW to destroy my faith and experiences that I saw. Others have seen and done miracles also. Well, these are the end times, many fools think Biden is doing a great job, destroying everything...

" It's an unclear action promising an unclear outcome. " NO! Its not unclear at all. God stopped that street person from attacking me at exactly 6 ft. as I had prayed previously because I moved to a rough city to go to college when a College Ambassador. This was God and I, not Wierwille or anyone else. Your response is not taking the simplicity and believing me. You doubters are basically calling me a liar and God a liar, as His word promises the manifestations which are evident both in the scriptures and in life if you only believe; including all 9, as God is not a respector of persons. Why do you call yourself Bolshevik, as the Bolsheviks were the original communists in the Russian revolution of 1917 as Marx and Engels were inspired by Lucifer to write the Communist Manifesto which has resulted in hundreds of millions of human deaths? Of course you have a "right" to call yourself whatever you like? Why Not "Working for Lucifer," you might as well? Tell us pratell, why, and be as clear as possible why. What would motivate someone that was involved in the Bible and formerly with any organization that was teaching some Biblical principles though corrupt to some extent, want to parade around here with such an Evil name. Would you choose Charlie Manson? Are you a communist? I hate communism and dislike commies, they destroy civilization and bring in every foul spirit; Communism followed by lying, stealing, murder, mayhem etc. Nothing any true Christian should or would be involved in? Did the Way damage you to such an extent that you turned to communism? I have studied a lot of history including extensive study of communism and I read all of the Gulag series of books. I am not being defensive, I am being offensive for the gospels sake and the truth, NOT WAY TRUTH. I have all the materials in my library of the PFAL etc., but I haven't looked at it for decades...

Rocky wrote: "Has ANYone on GSC over the decades really had ANY experience with "discerning of spirits" or other "manifestations" as taught by Victor Wierwille? I suspect that the answer is NO, NONE. Even if any have claimed to have such experience or insights, I just don't believe it." Bolshevik wrote: " This is good I'm glad you brought this up. You were able to use for force fields in sort of a "HE SHALL NOT PASS" scenario . . . but at the same time had the flu. It seems you could have deflected viruses too if necessary. But this didn't happen, apparently. Some other folks here have been very adamant about using a "God-Given immune system". Do you happen to understand what these folks are getting at? Perhaps you could shed some light on the matter by explaining how you were able to protect yourself in one area, but not another?" T-Bone summary: He faked SIT in PFAL onwards, and T-Bone stated "I say the experiences you’ve mentioned are TOTALLY UNLIKE mine, partly because I find your narrative incredulous and partly because your premise is based on faulty teachings from the Power For Abundant Living class." My General comments: My experiences are true, not caused by mental illness, delusion etc. Just because you have not experienced something, especially of a spiritual nature as referenced in the scriptures does not mean I and others have not experienced them and are not true. If you never ate an ice cream cone with vanilla ice cream with sprinkels on top, does not mean they do not exist. My spiritual experiences are part of my testimony as a Christian; I have never faked any spiritual manifestation or made things up as being real. Are you saying these things don't exist and are not available? The fact that you do not think these things are available just because you do not have them or have them and don't believe or know how to manifest them does not mean they are not available to others. Both the Biblical records and many people I know and trust who were in the Way like me have given their testimonies and I believe they are true also. These go back to mentors who assisted me when I was starting out in the Way. Believers from other organizations and beliefs as well as independent ministries also have given testimonials (I am not referring to the TV evangelists and other money grabbing types who I dislike). Regarding: Rocky statement as above and other doubters etc.: You have the right to believe or not believe what you want. But you are basically calling me a liar, a fool or a mental case by implication? Again, its my testimonial. Regarding Bolshevik's statement above; Yes, I was very sick, had the flu. But I was believing for a 6 ft. hedge of protection from God. God did deliver what I asked for in a marvelous and manner that was so spectacular. It was God's doing. My testimonial. My part was I believed God. He did more than I can ask or think. Decades later he followed up with explanation of what happened. Stand on the word and God delivers! God promises His desire for us to prosper and be in health, which would effect immune system and the whole Body and Soul potentially. Regarding T-Bones statements; You faked SIT. This brings into question your credibility, as well as your inability to manifest anything other than a pimple perhaps? My beliefs are not based on PFAL, but on scriptures, God teaching me and my experiences which I have learned from. Some things in PFAL are true, others not so. Way Ministry was a mixture of good and bad. It and the people were not all good or bad. Christ in each believer is true, according to both scripture and MY EXPERIENCES. GOD is my witness also as well as me. Also others have seen, such as the woman walking for the first time in seven years. I witnessed it. You did not. If I saw a bank robbery, and the bank was actually robbed, would you say the bank was not robbed? You apparently have not seen much, and that is sad considering all the areas you served in with the Way? That is testimonial about lack of faith and the apostasy in general of the Christian Body of Christ, the Church as foretold in scripture in these end times we are in that such would be the case; APOSTASY, MEANING A FALLING AWAY FROM GOD. The Jews returned to Israel as foretold in scripture after a very long time. We are in the end times. I suggest you doubters and unbelievers of God's 9 manifestations and any other doubts and non-beliefs of the Bible go humbly back to God and ask Him to help you "See the light, not from a Way dogma, but from God's spirit if it is in you, and if not get it, and believe God and manifest and not fake the manifestations. As regards Mark Sanguenetti's statements, he refers to Christ in the believer, and I appreciate his statement.

Hi Rocky: Because you have not experienced things spiritually, as the nine manifestations of the holy spirit, does not mean they do not exist, are not available by faith, or have ceased as some people claim. I know many believers who were in The Way, and others that were never in The Way, who have manifested some of the manifestations as described in the written word, 7 in Old Covenant and 9 since the Day of Pentecost. I have learned and operated all nine, and I know others that have also, though extreme minority. The body of Christ majority is in apostasy due to corruption and lack of faith and other factors. Though unfortunately operating (manifesting) any manifestation is rare in Christianity as majority don't and much was lost in history due to many factors (starting with Constantine and what became the Catholic Church and confusion of manifestations being called "gifts," added by the translators without authority. Since 1975 when I was first exposed to The Way, I have endeavored to learn as much as I can from the written, spoken and revealed Words of God and the holy spirit and its manifestations. I have seen signs, miracles and wonders and so have others. Way back in 1977 or 1978 a woman came to our house fellowship in a wheel chair, she hadn't walked in 7 years. She heard the teaching and she had faith for healing and said; "I want to walk tonight" Immediately everyone without verbal direction by anyone, but as inspired by the holy spirit immediately started silently speaking in tongues immediately for her to walk, which she did. The house leader assisted her by helping her up with his hand and arm. She walked for the first time in 7 years! She stayed with us for one or two weeks and was a bundle of joy, cleaning the dishes and walking etc. I have done and seen incredible things, including God's protection a multitude of times from evil people. One instance in 1977 I was believing for a six foot hedge of protection which one attacker hit at exactly six feet as he hit an invisible force field and stopped dead from a full run towards me as I turned to look at him as I heard his feet running fast towards me. I was sick at the time with a bad flu as he had hassled me a minute before asking me for spare change and cigarettes to which I said "Stay away from me," and I walked away towards a store as I was in need for food. I told people for decades about it and said "He ran away faster than he ran towards me." Actually about a year and a half ago God informed me that the man actually de-materialized and was translated somewhere else by informing me of the true facts. At the time I told God I don't want to fight this guy. I have since realized that God and maybe my brain also was protecting me from something so incredible as de-materialization is. But I shall never forget when he hit that invisible wall, a hedge of protection. Last year in on April 14 God protected me by stopping a car from running me over which stopped 1/2 inch from my knees. My feet were under the hood of this car. The power company was working cutting trees and so one lane was closed. I was walking and there is no sidewalk, as I live in a forested area. The car was approaching slowly and I thought it was a friend of mine's car, but could not see the person as the sun was reflecting from the windshield. I stood there thinking it was my friend and was going to walk to the side of the car and talk. It was mistaken identity. All of a sudden the insane driver speed up, I had no time to move out of the way, I was frozen in place. Even a race car driver could not stop at that speed within 1/2 inch of my knees. God prevented possible serious injury. The crew chief of the men working on the power lines saw the whole thing and said, "I thought you knew each other." Everyone was shocked including myself, we failed thereby to get the license number. That maniac should have been arrested and his license taken away. God will take care of him. I and many believers have experienced discerning of spirits and other types of revelation received in feelings, words, visually, heard etc. It happens frequently and is not my imagination or mental illness such as hallucinations or delusions of grandeur etc. I have attended to two believers in intensive care who were at death's door, and who recovered, the first in 1986 and the other in 2018. I prayed intensely for both etc. I could go on about my own healings, revelations etc. You either believe The Word or you don't? To the degree you trust God and in what areas is to the degree that you see amazing things. I suggest you rethink your position of unbelief and doubt? It is unfortunate that most Christians do not walk by the spirit and see God's incredible power manifested in life!

Dear Twinky: Thanks for the response, excellent thoughts. I am so thankful I never went into the Way Corps. I was a College Ambassador and I was the only one at both colleges I went to. I was the lone wolf, thank God. I had no one hounding me. I just cooperated with the leadership but did as I was inspired and pleased to do. I did learn a lot that year. Yeah, Loy Boy was really something. He never learned the verses 1Co 10:32 Give no offense to Jews, or to Greeks, or to the church of God, 1Co 10:33 just as I also please everyone in all things, not seeking my own profit, but the profit of the many, so that they might be saved. I suspect Martindale may have forced his way into presidency as he was privy to VPW's transgressions as well as partaking in them? Why call The Way Corps the Way Corps? In War you want the Marine Corps. but in the Gospel you need God's Love manifested. He was always nasty, acting more like the "Seed of The Serpent" then a loving/kind Seed of Abraham. I remember one memorable visit he made to our local area and he reprooved everything, and as he was about to leave thank God, he said "next time I come back I will comb your hairs back" (implying reproof again). What if we did everything well? He predetermined to be a tyrant. He missed his calling, he should have been leader of the USSR! The seed talker may have been a seed planted by the enemy? After all, practically all denominations and non-denominations have been infiltrated by the Jesuits and other "seed boys and girls." I never liked him spiritually. One picture I saw of him stood out to me, he looked weird, like almost albino like and it struck me spiritually. He should have "discerned himself." I remember when I had to take the test for the Advanced Class. He walked around like a hawk, hoping someone would be cheating it appeared. Unfortunately he taught the Advanced Class I took in 1984. VPW came and was very weak and sickly. The new MOGFOT was worse than the old original MOGFOT. MOGFOT sounds like a demon's name, similar to MOT THE HOPPLE. I learned all about Lucifer and nothing about Christ through that creature. I always considered him the enemy? I dislike him as I dislike George Soros, Adolf Hitler and other "seed boys." He does not appear to have the nature and characteristics of someone born-again? Was, is he seed of the Serpent or just was/is loaded with demons? He was the one that sent John Schoenheit packing for merely writing about Adultery from a Biblical perspective without pointing a finger at anyone? Well, at least LCM didn't commit murder against him or anyone else that we know of? Thats in Loy's favor. Very telling is the photograph I saw in The Way Magazine after Martindale was enthroned of his robes and hat surrounded by roped poles like they have in theater lobbies ON DISPLAY! As if he was a King or something? What pretentious ego and lack of any humility whatsoever. Well, that was craggy craig! Does anyone have a story of Lucifer Con Martindale being kind, compassionate and "Christ-like?" For fairness sake, please tell us?

At an event in Oakland in 1979 VPW was about a yard away from me in his 3 piece white suit. I was shocked, I discerned by holy spirit that he was "Loaded" with demons. I didn't say one word to him. Only a few other times have I spiritually sensed such intense what I call "demon density." A close friend of mine who was in The Way had a similar discerning of VPW's spirits at another time and place. All the garbage about Advanced class grads and Way Corps and how sharp they were supposed to be etc. and yet I sensed this before I had the advanced class. Holy spirit is not dependent on Way classes. I stayed in the Way for the fellowship and took the advanced class in 84. I grinned and bared it until 1987 when masses left including me. I am glad I had the Way experience, some of the best and worst people I met in the Way. Lucifer Con Martindale (Loy) was the worst in my opinion. I asked Way Corps Grad Phil Sebastian before he passed away, who knew LCM very well if he remembered Martindale ever operating the love of God? He said "Not that I can recall." Neither can I. I never liked LCM spiritually nor his demeanor. Another true story about LCM and his attitude which is true. In San Francisco at a Business and Professions Conference held at the Sheraton Plaza Hotel, a friend of mine who will remain nameless had a problem with homosexuality, as he was raped twice when an adolescent. He had a terrible conflict and no matter what he could not shake it. He attended the same conference I did and he anonymously requested prayer for his problem in the prayer request book. Lucifer Con Martindale got up before the whole gathering and yelled in anger "I can't believe it, we actually have a homosexual here who requested prayer in the prayer request book! What is a prayer request book for anyway? My friend left The Way soon after that and eventually passed away also. He was the type that would help people, he was a victim. I was upset when my friend told me he was the one. I called and complained to Headquarters which fell on deaf ears. Martindale brought homosexuals into the Way with his production of Athletes of The Spirit, as he foolishly apparently did not know that generally professional male dancers tend to be "gay." So he wouldn't help a believer get delivered of homosexuality, and brought more into the ministry for his horrid and poor dancing fiasco while he routinely practiced adultery. He was as spiritually sharp as a potato, and just as intelligent in my opinion.

Hello Wayne, I hope that you are doing well? I am in touch by phone with your father from time to time. VPW and LCM missed their true calling. It would have been better for everyone if they had opened up a little legal cat house in Nevada. They could of partaken of some of the merchandise, made money, and they wouldn't have caused such harm to the body of Christ as regards money, doctrine, sex and everything. I think even God would have respected this more than what they actually did and taught. Suicide is another harm caused by the Way International in some individuals. The Way taught that any weakness made you a bad person, whether that was not believing, or physical or mental or emotional problems, and this was while their doctrines and practices was causing spiritual, emotional, mental and physical injuries, damages and evil to the believers. It is a disgrace as far as I am concerned. James French

Yes, thats me and I assume you are the Mike G who went out WOW, and I always remember you as that "wild and crasy guy!" just kidding, remember Saturday Nite Live? Have you heard from Bob H. lately, I haven't as unfortunately he and Janis are divorced. Bob went into Radio and is very professional sounding. James French