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This just in. Ortiz is okay. A message from the heavens just came down to me and said I would live because of Exie's prayer. Otherwise I would be dead. What kind of connections does she have anyway?

Oh Lord, Thank you for taking the Red Sox out of Egypt. And now, please Oh, God, deliver the land of Canaan (New York) unto them, so that they may go further into the land of milk and honey (World Series bonuses). (I better stop paraphrasing the Word before God strikes either me or Ortiz dead). Thanks, though, God, for helping Boston. I mean it.

It is Game Five with Ortiz, again with a winning single in the 14th inning to make it 5-4 and send the playoffs back to New York for game six. Ha! God Bless the Boston Red Sox.

Was it game five we are talking about?

Exie, Ortiz hit it in the 12th after all in Game Four.

Whoops, I mean 14th. Thanks, Exie.

A good movie to watch is "Leap of Faith" with Steve Martin, Debra Winger, and Liam Neeson.

My father-in-law likes Benny Hinn. He is also going blind. What a coincidence. Such false hopes raised. We just pray straight to God in Jesus' name and that is better than a minister who waves his hand and people throw themselves over or across a stage and have epileptic fits.

Who could argue about a twelfth inning homer? Go Sox!

I am happy to hear he did a few healings with the power of God. That blind man episode disturbs me, though.

After researching healing, I came to doubt the PFAL account of VPW healing the guy in India who said, "I do not believe in your Jesus". Doesn't work with scripture accounts of healing. Sounds now like the snowstorm thing.

The Red Sox lost. As a TWI alumnus emeritus dumbasstisis, I must sue somebody.

I am sorry, mstar1. I'll change that. I want the Red Sox to have George Steinbrenner's money.

We need George Steinbrenner to buy the Red Sox and sell the Yankees.

And unto you this day in the city of Baltimore, is born a savior, a Babe in a manger, and he shall deliver you from your losing streak, oh Boston, those who weep for a deliverer. I Eagle 2:12 And the city of Boston rejected the deliverer, and crucified him, anf three days later, arose as a Yankee. And the Lord said, my people have rejected my savior, let them be cursed, and win no more World Series until the day I see they have turned from their sins and stop trading really good players. And it was so. I Eagle 24:44 (Lord, you know I am joking, right?)

I saw the allegations but I don't see the proof other than perhaps his leaving his messages for her to call him back on answering machines. Since she is a producer of the show. This is a common occurrence for the producer and star to talk and even call each other at home for work-related issues. Not sure if she can prove her case unless she is like Linda Tripp and had it taped. If that is the case, O'Reilly is history. On the subject of O'Reilly himself, I don't think he is all that bright, either. He consistently interrupts people he interviews, appears self-righteous, and cannot tell anything other than that about him.

Oakspear is right. For those who are still in TWI, just do something which makes them think you are possessed or rebellious, like disagreeing with a teaching. They will set you out on a curb, no questions asked.

Ex, Good point. I suppose that had they known TWI would collapse like it did, then they would have chosen a family funeral in their home towns.

You mean the last is worse than the first?

UncleHairy, oh please, don't mention the Babe, it is bad luck. It is like mentioning Jose Canseco or Roger Clemens. Oh Lord, please answer the prayer of a dying five year old boy and let the Red Sox win. Okay, I am not dying and I am not five. But forgive me, I know not what I do. In TWI lingo, please cast the devil spirits out of Fenway park and deliver them from evil. Damn Yankees.

The "stealing people" thing was aimed at John Shroyer. I know for a fact that the people he picks up, as well as other off-shoot ministries, have already left the TWI fold. CES may have taken a lot in the beginning but to be honest, these people would not have gone with them unless they were already fed up. There are on some rare occasions where someone comes to pick up a TWI believer that wanted out, drove in to pick them up, the person waiting in the parking lot, and takes luggage with them with others watching. The "rescuer" was ready with a place for the escapee to live and helped them get a job, and also fit them into their favorite fellowship. The favorite pickups were at night in New Knoxville at a designated place. A person on staff would slip out into the night, some packing what they had, others just giving their stuff away to someone else on staff, and head on out past any "patrol" and head on foot into town. It was not that TWI didn't let them go, it was just the case of trying to avoid an emotional scene where the guilt and condemnation is heaved upon that person. I know of only two times this happened, but I am sure GSers out there may have a few more. When they ended up in another ex-way ministry, then the accusations flew. I know of no "kidnapping" or "stealing" by an ex-twi ministry.

About CES being mentioned as "stealing members". You are correct, but that was I think, almost twenty years ago, and the most recent was CFF as a ministry. But I do remember in the Galatians Tapes weekends LCM hosted he was riled and spoke pretty bad about John Lynn. Although his name and CES did not come up, yes, John Lynn, and especially John Schoenheit are due for the Ex-TWI Purple Heart Award. That is from my own observation before the hostility was turned to another later. CW can you do that thing again for John Lynn and John Schoenheit? Yes, they do deserve one each. Raf, by all means, copy my post if it is okay with Purple Heart recipient Paw. This just in...John Kerry is trying to apply for the Ex-TWI Purple Heart. Says he drove by TWI once and got the chills. (Ha!)

The Red Sox must win one series in my lifetime. Oh Dear Lord, make it so. Remove the Curse of the Bambino from every seventh game of the World Series they are playing. Amen.

Isn't five the number the Way Corps started with?

A friend of mine, now former corpse of the Way, or TWI for short (Too Weird, Inc.), left the ministry for good a short while ago. He does not allow me to share his (yeah, it's a guy, best I can do) name or state he is in. But in Corpse meetings he did share that there were some that TWI, mainly LCM, but later the TWI BOD felt were a royal pain in the a**. The Allens were spoken of a lot. The Lawsuit and Waydale. Greasespot is spoken of a lot at least up to a few months ago when he (my contact) decided to leave or just disappear from view. So I guess Pawtucket is another one. PJ Roberge is a hot topic and he said Corpse members were almost "forbidden" to go to his sites. Not outlawed totally, just that PJ was blasted for, get this, "faked" or "forged" documents by some leaders, (not BOD), just some Corpse leaders, which he believes were in denial then and are still in denial. So to some in TWI, PJ is Dan Rather. His problem with those guys accusing PJ was that TWI could easily produce original documents that were not "forged" to clear themselves and never did, so PJ is in court battles instead. I asked if he had Corpse tapes and he said no, these discussions took place after Corpse meetings generally, in his area but occasionally at TWI HQ. John Shroyer is another for "stealing" members. Since I knew John Shroyer, last I heard he wasn't driving up in a CFF van and yanking TWI faithful inside and driving away to Tipp City with them. Then there was Living Epistles, which some Corpse accused of "changing doctrine". So Raf has riled some for challenging basic PFAL. My website Christian Heritage Online was not even an honorable mention. Perhaps my ten hits a night compared to hundreds for the others is the reason. Not enough to annoy them I suppose. Chris Geer has not been mentioned as a threat for years, though he has been talked about in a negative light from time to time. Thus, the new Ex-TWI Purple Heart goes to: 1. The Allens 2. The man known as Pawtucket 3. PJ Roberge 4. John Shroyer (and all of CFF I suppose) 5. Rafael Who is the top pain in the a**? Depends on the moment. Oh, one more thing, Pawtucket made Greasespot available for us to share our thoughts on TWI, most of them not so good. So I suppose all of us here are pains in the a**. Maybe how we are measured here is our degree of participation on GS. Some with several thousand deserve better than the purple heart. Maybe a Bronze or Silver Star. I guess Ex-Cathedra gets the freakin' Medal of Honor.