George Aar

And there you have it folks, the whole of WayWorld, in one concise, bite-sized piece! (amazing how we can go on blathering about it for YEARS after though, huh?) It IS kinda sad in retrospect, though. All the time, effort and means wasted for such a pathetic, petty, P.O.S., "knock-off" ministry. Geeze, at least we coulda picked a major player in the Cult game, but NOOOO...

Huh? I guess my lack of spirituality must be to blame, as I don't see the Invisible one or the Oakie doing anything more than trying to inject a little (much needed) common sense into the debate. And the condescention from the more religiously disposed amongst us does seem to be getting a little overpowering. But, maybe I'm just too sensitive...

Cool, Is there any chance you could scan it maybe? While I'm at it, here's another of my top ten alltime favorites: http://www.moma.org/images/collection/FullSizes/10643005.jpg

Wow, what a coincidence. I was reading in the paper and they've found that 21 percent of the population has a very poor understanding of the meaning of many words...

Well, yes the problem has been brewing for quite awhile now. One can actually track the start of the decline to about 1980. At that time we were still the largest creditor nation, the largest exporter of finished goods, the dollar was relatively strong, and we had wages that were still growing. Fast forward 28 years and we're the largest IMPORTER of finished goods, the largest DEBTOR nation in the world, the dollar is anemic and wages have been stagnant or retreating for decades. And despite your simplistic attempt to blow it all off as just "lefty" speech, I'm not proposing that this is a problem cause by the "left" or "right", as I don't find much to admire in either camp. I think the problem is with the basic ideas that have been adopted by those in power for the last few decades. The idea that the market is an invisible, benevolent god that will sort out all the inequities in the system, that government is inherently a bad idea, and some sort of anarchy - at least in the financial relm - is much to be preferred, and that "supply-side" economics is a good idea. I think the initiating of those concepts has brought about the financial ruin which I fear is lurking at our collective door. But, yes, I do lay alot at the feet of Dubya. Like Hoover some eighty years ago now, he's been sitting on his hands, expecting everything to be just fine, (if we just shoot and bomb enough "bad" people). Why haven't we been pushing for an electric car, for solar energy, coal gasification, cleaner coal technology, etc, with anywhere near the fervor that we've pursued discretionary wars with various and sundry middle-east countries? And gee, now they're getting Big Oil back into Iraq. Isn't that a coincidence?

Dow hits 10,000! (How's your 401k?) Well, not yet, but I can't imagine it's too far off. Anyone care to join me in a little collective hand-wringing over the state of the Bushisized economy? His pals in the Oil Biz seem to be holding up rather well, though. Gosh, who'd a thunk?

My Favorite Martian?

Oh, I dunno dooj, That one kinda creeps me out. Is she sleeping or is she dead? The color would seem to indicate the later. At any rate, not for me...

Well, you've probably already read his stuff, but in the off chance you haven't, you might be interested in my adopted Mentor's work: http://books.google.com/books?id=xynV2AEAO...result#PPA10,M1 Can't get enough of him...

I'm sure somebody's posted this recently, due to his passing, but just in case: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o

A man gets a call from his doctor. Says the voice on the phone, "Gee, I've got some bad news for you AND some even worse news." "Oh no." Replies the man. "Well, give me the bad news first and we'll work our way up to the worse news." The doctor then tells him "You've got a terrible a-symptomatic fatal illness, and you've only got 24 hours to live." "Oh my GAWD!" The man moans. "What could possibly be worse than THAT!" The doctor replies: "Uh, I meant to call you yesterday..."

Is the other cook in the "28" clip Shemp of Three Stooges fame? Shore looks like 'em...

Like Gervais, I've always found the concept of the absence of God (at least the one propounded in the Churches I attended), to be intuitively obvious. I find it remarkable that, now that we're all grown up and sent men to the moon, developed treatments - or even cures -for most of the really nasty diseases, and discovered planets in other solar systems, that so many of us still want to cling to such an unpersuasive being as the God of The Bible. Oh, but I'm getting off topic here. I'll come back when I think of a cutesy line or two about atheism...

Yes, whenever reality intruded on WayWorld dogma, a new revised requirement was trotted out to explain the apparent discrepancy. Just like any other religion. "Why doesn't life work like it says in The Bible?" "Well, actually it DOES! You just don't understand it yet!" (This is sorta like the "blame the victim" game. You never admit to any lack on the part of the dogma, simply lay it all at the feet of the one asking the questions. Since there's certain to be gaps in anyone's knowledge, and the questioner no doubt is aware of this shortcoming of his already, you can just guilt him into acquiescing to the superiority of the Scriptures, without ever actually proving anything. A classic dodge, [or is it a Buick?])

I think there might be a multiple-personality disorder in the mix... (I also heard that the reason Grumpy got that way was due to Snowy's favors being distributed a bit too liberally? Say it isn't so...)

I think we should find us a good, red-mouthed lawyer to file a class-action suit against WayWorld, and demand the camp as partial restitution! Dubs on Cabin 6!

I dunno, the most common response I ever got when I told somebody I was in a cult was, "Oh yeah? ... Hey, did you see Futurama last night?" Really, I don't think the average Joe much gives a damn. At least I've never found anybody who did. I've had a hard time finding people who had ANY reaction to my big secret. I think for the most part, they don't have any inkling of the depths of involvement cult life demands, and hence, don't really appreciate the significance of the "confession". That being said, personally I don't think I carry much baggage from my time in WayWorld anymore. It was a stupid thing I did, and I wasted a lot of years that sure could have been better spent. But I'm long past it now, and fortunately, without any really lasting scars. Too bad everybody can't say the same. Some of us got wounded much worse than others. I would tend to take issue with part of your statement though. I think there IS a common trait, to a greater or lesser extent, in all of us that joined up with the MOGster Fan Club. Just exactly what it is, I'm not entirely sure, a certain degree of submissiveness, a lack of confidence in some area, a bit too credulous maybe. I don't know really, but I think that there ARE some who are immune to cult infestation of the brain. Unfortunately, you and I weren't among them...

Well, Maybe some of the dweebs that frequent this place are obnoxious and contentious. But jeeze, wouldn't it get boring without 'em? Honestly, if it wasn't for the Wierwille Apologists to fence with, I doubt I'd post much at all. So, to all you Piffle regurgitators 'round here, Thanks for all your efforts! No matter how low I may feel, or how bad things may go wrong in my life, I can always read some of your posts and realize that at least I'm not as screwed up as you are. What a vital service you perform! Thanks!

The whole concept was a common tenet of pop-psychology of the 50s and 60s. Really a rather quaint - though utterly unsupportable - idea. If it really was a "LAW" wouldn't that be disappointing to come out of a Monster-Movie and really have your brains eaten by the undead? It was a whacky, childish, and downright dopey idea. But hey, it's getting recycled today with "The Secret". Until we learn to rely on reason we'll forever be victimized by such nonsense...

yeah, Arizona, We've all heard your particular song before. Gee, you're just the epitome of compassion, no? Yeah, anybody should EXPECT to get raped and abused if they meet up with a MOG, now shouldn't they? And if they don't, then they get what's coming to 'em, right? :blink:

Indeed, I find it hard to figure out the relevance of this whole thread. Of course I have the added attribute of never having given a damn about anything Way-Prod flavored. I found the music to be "icky" (at best). Sorry, it just wasn't my cuppa tea - ever. I met her a couple of times, she seemed nice, and?

Here's the Wiki entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caminito_del_Rey

What a cool Video! My heart was in my throat just watching! I can't imagine climbing around on all that decayed concrete (with no rebar) and all the holes and completely missing portions. That doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in the integrity of what's left!

I'd like my name on the moon, but only if it's visible from earth. Maybe something along the lines of "This Moon belongs to:"...

Hey OM, how's fishin'? Yeah, the same ol' bait and switch action, huh? The issue DW was addressing had nothing to do with the "integrity" of the Wurd that the Vicster promoted (as if you didn't know). It had to do with acceptance or rejection of a given person's testimony. It seems that Whitey was adamantly opposed to even considering anything someone might have to say if what they said showed His Excellency, Mr. Wierwille, in a bad light. But when it comes to those wonderful stow-ries of Jonny's, well, Mr. Whitey seemed downright anxious to revel in the rightly-divided integrity of THEM. Maybe a little double-standard going on?