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Ok . . . I forgot that PFAL = Bible or something. My Bad. I am assuming (an cannot validly diagnose) VPW had NPD of some form. I am assuming PFAL was a means for his NPD to bring in "narcissist supply". I assume. Made an ARZ of U and ME. Balaam's ARZ. See how it all fits like a hand in a glove?

PD = personality disorder NPD = narcissistic personality disorder (as opposed to someone who has a narcissistic personality) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder Concerning possession:

Fascinating. A narcissistic PD person has their "selves" - authentic self and the false self - so split they dissociate -- It is like they are watching a movie. Of themselves . . . but to them it is not themselves. It's someone else! So when confronted with their behavior they are genuinely shocked that they are a accused . . of doing the things they did do . . So in PFAL/TWI . . . all this talk about sin, sin consciousness and forgiveness is training to think like the narcissist . . . "Bah . . . derp derp . . . wasn't me! . . . I see the video too but you are wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong . . . "

The renewed mind is the key to power. The key to the renewed mind is the stayed mind. Power comes from the grandiosity in the shared fantasy. Just a bunch of steps to tune out the chaos of reality. Nice feeling not dealing with anything real. Always victorious that way.

. . . Or narcissistic mortification That is funny. Putting off the authentic self and putting on the idealized false self.

I took DTA and had the Athletes of the Spirit Coloring book. I think I used a lot of red crayons. I think there were 33 classes of spurts, but I don't remember half of them . . . if anyone has a list. They tended to focus on the gay spurts . . . cause who wouldn't? There was possession and born again of the wrong seed, where the Adversary put a wedge in the person's head, so spurts could come and go as they please. TWI has a bit of a fascination with debil spurts . . . and I find it interesting Dr. Vaknin relates narcissism/cluster B's with Demonic possession. If anyone wants to share where the debil spirit talk began in TWI. . . please do.

False dichotomy. We are interdependent.

When it is taught and practiced that love is obedience what the heck do you expect? . . . OBEY!! Oh! . . . Says here Narcissists prefer fear, obedience and admiration over love and likability. Due to the inferiority complex and paranoia. I wonder if these matters have a connection . . .

Narcissist doesn't have real self - feels emptiness and shame - replaces it with grandiosity Reality however tests that grandiosity - it doesn't stand up to the test Narcissist creates fantasy world complete with magical thinking - needs others to prop this up In this world he is superior at all times Those who get trapped in this world share this fantasy and help to defend it's boundaries - meant to protect the narcissist himself

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2016/10/12/the-one-thing-to-do-to-stop-the-obesity-epidemic/?sh=62c466666046

Did johniam just quote himself and argue against himself to slam Waysider?

StayedTooLong, I was referring to hunger, not poverty. Though they can be related. I meant the government policies running how the food industry operates. Remember Upton Sinclair's The Jungle? This is nothing new.

http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2010/12/06/fashion-industry-goes-crazy-for-new-diet-book-homeless-people-dont-get-fat’/ This link at least suggests homeless don't get fat . . . In Britain.

Maybe the homeless didn't read this thread. Some of them don't know they aren't supposed to be fat. Unless . . . google is lying to me. https://www.wired.com/2012/06/homeless-obesity/ https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=158381 http://homelessadvice.com/why-are-homeless-people-fat-html/

https://www.routledge.com/World-Hunger/Collins/p/book/9781853834936?gclid=CjwKCAjwoZWHBhBgEiwAiMN66ftDfvzAnmtDEnVc3hVZKt2xDFxTsJyCzEy6BBnEpAUUKxkvFTruExoCGmMQAvD_BwE Written in 98 but that's where I got the idea

People don't know how to provide their Narcissist supply properly. There should be a class. "Power For Feeding Your Narcissist." Not catchy enough. Maybe a little too forward.

Didn't mean to go politics. Sorry.

Wow, this thread. Food and water and air are essentials. Alcohol and tobacco are not. Most of the production and distribution of these items are out of our hands, individually speaking. I think it is well known starvation is not necessary in this world and typically caused by bad governments. We usually don't point at individuals for starving and say "try harder". If the world is going to collapse because everyone is fat that sounds like a job for government policies.

Segued right into S.S. . . . If we all get morbidly obese . . . we'll tumble down the slippery slope . . . and there will be nobody alive to collect S.S. . . . problem solved.

I think "stresses" might refer to the overwhelming amount of information in our age coupled with our daily responsibilities. Add to this the overabundance and easily accessible source cheap tasty foods - and our decision making limits often become overwhelmed. The amount of work, research, time and focus it takes to achieve a healthy diet is a recipe to fail. A long time could be spent getting specific on that.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/12/13/whats-on-your-table-how-americas-diet-has-changed-over-the-decades/ https://www.precisionnutrition.com/eating-too-much-blame-your-brain https://smokymountainnews.com/lifestyle/rumble/item/31055-a-history-of-the-food-pyramid In one household one person could be vegan, another keto, another is alternate fasting, another eats whatever/whenever. How do you coordinate a society when one house seems impossible? Each person's solution is specific to them.

Behind narcissistic rage is typically envy, or some perceived attack on the absent self. The Trinity, Dead are not Alive, and Abortion always seemed to be the Big 3 in inciting rage. (When they're not yelling about money). Just an observation.

Your links are clear obesity/overweight is a growing trend and is a problem for everyone. There's no studies on the cause. You've cited a correlation on a small sample size and compared it to other issues, which would also require thorough studies as to there causes . . . Which I am sure exist.

Have you looked into the history of the food pyramid? Maybe all the advice people are following is wrong. May it's not.

Ok. So. There's a strawman . . . plus bordering on covert to overt aggression. Real hatred for these Trinitarians. Plus hatred who disagrees with God you. Because they are like the Trinitarians . . .. not you . . . not VPW. So either you hate the Trinitarians or Doc Vic hated them therefore you hate them. Anyone who doesn't hate the Trinitarians hates VPW. God VPW sees you as holy. You'd want to protect that. Echo is a neat name. Reminds me of rumination. Which is a word related to cows. Holy Cow. Bow before the Holy Cow.