Bolshevik

So thoughts are like events now? hmm

Get your thoughts word and actions in alignment and parallel . . . see changed your beliefs . . . now you feel all warm and fuzzy!

You could experience a traumatic event because you changed your belief. Usually avoiding that is why beliefs are held onto. (I don't think this is unique to doctrinal) Makes the phrase "Law of Believing" even funnier. . . . Conform or else!

If you don't get the footwork and the hand motions at the right timing the manifestations won't work. Much like the fusion dance . . . in fact, Dragonball likely stole the idea from The Way.

If a child can be a believer is there any choice in the matter?

Omg time flies. Yes they are!

When I read John 5:30 now it sounds like power given from authority. Jesus acted as another rational responsible being would. Using power he already had and exercising the right as a higher authority would. When thinking "all nine all the time" it's as if you're giving yourself over and God is totally running your being. That is enmeshment. That is not a relationship. Well, toxic, yes.

I mean if the manifestations were supposed to help you discern and know and be wise and believe . . . What's with all the meetings???? Knowbody seems to know how to work anything . . . All Nine All the Nonsense

Oh yep. Advanced Class Specials Cause everyone needed to gather and listen to the lists of what did get you possessed and a list of precautions to avoid getting possessed. Broad is the gate . . . Narrow is The Way.

LCM could have a bad day and teenagers a thousand miles away get targeted. Hope Okie and the devil are sitting on a tack. Sitting on a tack. Sitting on a tack, forever.

I seem to remember everything and anything gets one possessed. Everything gives off something. Everything is spiritual. Even the grass. Being possessed or in-line-ment (Sp??) and harmony was always based on what someone else thought. Or felt. Or ate that morning.

The Law of Believing has an element of grandiosity . . . super magical thinking . . . You can do anything . . . because of the deep constant pain the leader must hide from . . . having no identity/ego and constantly blasted by the superego . . he (VPW) must reimagine himself The follower is there to mirror that image. They must follow along in this game. Finding the best parking spots at the grocery store . . . proving VPW's reality. All the biblical stuff is just dressing up ego inflation. The Word, The Word . . . nothing but VPWs fantasy realm. Toss out the verses and look at his mind. Hope you're spending lots of time with your boy.

hehehe IT IS WRITTEN What bologna. Red herring. It's a relationship with the leader. What is written matters little. Contradictions are overlooked because the truth . . IS NOT WRITTEN.

Of course it was. LCM chose what to highlight it as many others did. "Save the person then love the person" I think was one way to say it. Love-bombing was diminished and the threats were increased. Obviously misapplying older tactics. When joining a cult a person is choosing to be hated.

Your first option conveys the idea he did not love himself and thought even less of you. I think it was in the WAP class LCM drove home that being right comes before loving the person.

That would lead to The Law Believing. For VPW as an NPD it was his magical thinking . . . he did it to survive For the "neurotypical" it was ego inflation . . . to get through perceived or real hard times. All training to be more like him, his image, what he want to be seen as. NEEDS to be . . . just to get it parrellel.

Wierwille's ego couldn't be deflated because he had no ego. The grandiousity is a salve to the pain of that reality.

PFAL, the Advanced Class, the total TWI "belief system" is chaos. It's complete chaos. The orderly homes for TWIGS and the perfectly cut grass and the feigned smiles gives the illusion that something or someone is in control. 1 Corinthians 14:40 my foot. The value system should have been in order first, not the façade.

HA!!! A full blown NPD had no ego, has no self, no identity, does not experience real life . . . they are the true zombies, they are vampires, they are the undead, they are devil spirits, . . . feeding and occupying without contributing . . . like cancer. To be infected, be bitten, to be smitten, to be moved by an NPD is to join the ranks of the white walkers in the army of the dead.

Well he saw snow on the gas pumps. Nobody has ever seen anything like that before. Except everyone. But HE saw it, so he MUST be the messiah. . . . confirmation biases happen in shared fantasies, too, right? May I borrow $1000 from you and loan it back to you later and charge interest? You're welcome. Someone here was pointing this out long ago about Eve and the serpent, (they both had spirit so they could talk to each other), . . . she doubted her own thinking and a new idea was inserted . . . with consequences. That's crazy one class sets up for a later class. Remove thoughts in one class . . . Sell them back in another class with a new meaning. Seeing the contradictions on paper is humorous . . . but I don't think this medium captures the intensity and persistence. Logical consistency is unnecessary when pushing a lie. In fact it's probably the inconsistencies that serve as red herrings while the real agenda is pushed. Folks with personality disorders don't necessarily plan this, or construct this ahead of time. They are persistent, have practiced this since they were toddlers, and simply act on impulse. The rest of us just project how we think everyone else thinks onto them . . . and get disoriented when the results are unexpected.

I agree with this. Attention needed to be directed to him, VPW. He needed narcissistic supply. There will be inconsistencies and lies which VPW couldn't acknowledge because he confabulates. These are often amusing when not destructive, but countless folks went along with it for their own motives, be they benign or selfish.

he changed "gifts" to "gift" if I remember right . . . he had some direction it sounds like I think

Did it come from Leonard's Class? Or Stiles? Was VPW's purpose for it just copy and paste?