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I feel there's a parallel with the Tower of Babel and the day of Pentecost. It's like the same story but in reverse.

I appreciate the like.

Holy Spirit came like cloven tongues Before the Holy Spirit descended in bodily form like a dove Madonna sang like a virgin What does it all mean??

So what do I do with all these matches? Make tongues of fire?

My meaning was I was a kid and when I questioned matters I was told I'd understand when I became an adult. By being a kid I didn't have the ability to understand. I guess it's a type of future faking.

I agree. You should be strong enough as a person to able to help others up, and also not to be changed easily by the crowd. But you should also be aware of who you surround yourself with, since you will be influenced by them. The feeling I remember associated with that phrase is one of heaviness and tunnel vision. People were being targeted?

His Mom. Mother Nature. The Holy Spirit. Disney used both Christian and Pagan symbolism.

Okay, I'm sensing it's not apples in the literal sense.

In Disney's Pinocchio, God the Father would be symbolized by Geppetto. An old man focused on old ways. His shop was full of clocks, like Father Time. Pinocchio had to descend into the depths and awaken his sleeping father from the beast (the whale at the bottom of the sea). Pinocchio sacrificed himself. Jesus had to go back to his Father. Jesus is the renewal aspect in a Process. So he had to leave. The sending of the Comforter, the Spirit of God, symbolizes a new event? Jesus can be absent and present, because that's the nature of a cycle?

I think it goes along with being unequally yoked and a rotten apple ruining the whole basket. And iron sharpeneth iron. I seem to remember LCM among others saying it. It sounds like a move to thin the herd, in order to strengthen the herd. Maybe move some into camps, I don't know. Might be purge related. It could be about motivating people to not be the weakest link in a chain. Outside of TWI you hear phrase like "You become the five people you spend the most time with" . . . letting go of people who hold you back The use of the term "always" may be a concern. Context is always trivial and moot, right?

Is that how the phrase went? Is that the right wording? That's how I remember it.

Cats play with their food. The universe is indifferent. Is saying all cruelty springs from weakness a projection of responsibility and cause? Weakness implies some sort of strength is demanded. From whom? (Just thinking out loud for discussion sake)

Once bullying becomes disembodied and institutionalized, you can't point a specific person anymore. That's why you have to break down how it works. At some point, it won't come in the form a person. Boom. The Absent Christ.

So the ascension when taken literally, which is a big no-no, sounds like Jesus lifted off like a Saturn V rocket. Which is nonsense. He stood on a hill, which is height. Lifted up which emphasizes that further. And the cloud is symbolic of power. He disappeared. Not absent, not present, but also absent and present. Transfigured. Then the Comforter came and moved The People. That sounds of political and social importance to me. For Christians and Non-Christians, this is unavoidable. (A millennia and a half later, Sola Scriptura is another act of Politics and Society)

Promises? . . . you'll understand when you're older

I found little Jesus on a cloud toys.

Yes. Empathy can backfire. The most loving to do is walk away.

. . .what? . . I'm not spacial? . . . *sniff*

Victor Paul Wierwille was incapable of love. What proof is going to change that?

. . . you can find videos and listen to how these people reason as they speak for themselves . . . you could also have their faces peeled off and slid into toaster slots, hypothetically

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me thousands of times over decades and decades . . .

. . . insecurity is a condition that would be present . . . that could have been present before an encounter with TWI . . . or induced as you are saying . . . like the kids game, "Are you mad?" "No" "Are you mad?" "No" "Are you mad?" "No" "Are you mad?" "NO!" "See, you're mad"

I agree with Raf on the point Wierwille could have picked up "Lord of The Rings" and built his cult around that, conceptually speaking. But, Wierwille was too stupid to understand mythology behind "Lord of The Rings" . . . Wierwille only said things to get people to have thoughts people in their own minds they would be drawn to. He never made a point. Seduction doesn't need a point. Wierwille does not need to understand what he is saying . . . and neither did the follower.

By saying you see Wierwille's point you are giving VPW credence. Did he even understand this "point"? Is there evidence for that? I doubt it. He was a plagiarist. A mimic. He did not have the faculty to see the story behind the words. Mike hasn't demonstrated that ability either.

False . . unless the argument is The Bible and Christianity have nothing to do with the development of modern civilization and thought . . . it appeared in spite of it