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As a man thinketh is all gnosis.

Is this whole paragraph Mr Russell's thoughts? It just reminds me of solipsism. Which is probably handy is developing one's narcissism. VPW could only give that which he is, yes?

And now, Ted Philips will lead the choir in "One Man Awake Awakens Another". Please Nod in approval.

https://www.verywellmind.com/news-science-shows-smiling-really-does-make-us-feel-better-5075811 I am guessing someone who puts on the TWIG face too long forgets it's a MASK. It's an act. That little mental engineering must have consequences.

Mike, you're a gold mine.

Gnosticism is a hunt for secret knowledge to defend yourself against some unseen enemy, yes? Assuming something or someone is out to get you is a form of narcissism.

Yeah T-Bone, I'm seeing zero relationship between Leviathan and alcohol. Leviathan is a thing in mythology, but someone decided to related to alcohol. And The Way needed this funnel for its hatred. The 3rd drink was once upon a time a means to completely tell The Way International and everyone in it F. U. Alcohol is just a chemical, C2H5OH. Not an event. Not a person. Not a devil spirit. The Way is not a chemical, or a devil spirit. Or an event.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Leviathan-Middle-Eastern-mythology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jörmungandr#:~:text=In Norse mythology%2C Jörmungandr (Old,Loki and the giantess Angrboða.

Are you saying 12 steps calls it Leviathan? Cause Google doesn't associate the two. There's a lot of psychological significance in Gilgamesh, too.

My opinion is you're describing the devaluation and discard phases of the Narcissist cycle of abuse. They wanted you confused and hurting (possibly setting up for the hoover phase). Alcohol may or may not become involved, and its use would confirm the Narcissist's view of the discarded person. Everyone has reasons for ignoring the warning signs when getting involved, but that is part of the idealization phase (phase one). The Way made alcoholism one of 33 classes of devil spirits. (of which I was diagnosed with about 45 of them) Why would LCM get defensive about alternate solutions to alcoholism? Sounds like there's multiple answers. One person here is translating AA in terms of discerning of spirits for the simple folk . . . or something. The Way likely stole these ideas for it's own purposes, but from where? Leviathan makes no sense to me at this point, and there seems like a very sloppy explanation in TWI materials.

Unclean Spirits Perhaps "devil spirits" is a synonym for "unclean spirit". The Wikipedia link, didn't see alcohol mentioned. Mental illness certainly is. Frogs too. Origen is mentioned. That guy had issues.

Your advice seems to be predicated on the idea that Spirit of Leviathan comes from The Bible? If someone were to look at the Bible, how would they come to the conclusion that Leviathan has something to do with alcohol? Let alone the entire subject of devil spirits? If these are not the case, "Spirit of Leviathan" along with "devil spirits" appears to come from a source outside The Bible.

My memory is LCM's explanation. The Adversary cannot create. He cannot make a spirit for the individual as God does with holy spirit (lower case). So he puts a "wedge" into a person's "door" - which is what seed is. The singing ladies had a song about keeping the door shut tight. "Out of fellowship" referred to obedience to God - which could mean many, many things. Not just going to fellowship. LCM was raging against AA, at the start of this thread. Alcoholism is a devil spirit in his world.

I have heard stories (while in New Knoxville) of heads being opened up and parts of the brain being missing . . . due to devil spirits eating away at it. Devil spirits are supposed to be specialists in working on a specific area of the mind (brain). Seed meaning there is a wedge in the door that allows any spirit access at any time, and this is irreversible. With alcohol, it takes a certain amount of drinking to allow the Spirit of Leviathan in. Or, once out of fellowship for disobedience specifically concerning drinking, the devil spirit has access. Once this bugger is in, there's a process to get him out, yes?

Sorry. Stole the Holy Spurt Class and got drunk with Power.

This guy comes up a few places. Mentions Leviathan and two-drink limit. There's another version with 3 steps on casting out spirits. http://www.absolutebiblestudy.com/Adversary/THE_SPIRIT_THAT_DWELLS_IN_AN_ALCOHOLIC.htm Don't know if this person is trying to quote Thomas Hobbes at some point. "perversion of justice" Read it while you can. The adversary is trying hard to take down this 30 year old website.

I'm assuming if he plagiarized there was at one time a better explanation. Pinocchio got hammered and swallowed by a whale, the little jack arse. The story generally being about growing up.

Spirits - 'cause transliterate But why Leviathan? Are you suggesting devil spirits are partial entities?

The search function needs a drink. Ethanol initially burns blue. Due to incomplete combustion the color changes to yellow, have more energy transitions now available, more wavelengths. Methanol burns blue better. But drinking that will cause you blindness, due to the formation of formic acid, which should be obvious. Same acid as in ant bites - an Ant-acid. Many animals and insects get drunk. Humans due seem to hold their liquor better than the rest, due to a 10 million year old gene that allows us to break it down better. Other genes seem to be involved that discourage the urge to stop drinking, maybe like overeating. Some have hypothesized that being able to consume alcohol for their calories gave humans an evolutionary advantage. Admitting you are worthless and need a higher power and apologize for whatever and grab your friends along. The twelve step program looks like something enabling people to open themselves up to another predator.

https://www.gotquestions.org/leviathan-spirit.html Nothing about alcohol. Water shows up.

https://www.amazon.com/Spirit-Leviathan-Jezebel-Athaliah/dp/0578530341 Did VPW borrow it from somewhere?

I fail to see the symbolism of using Leviathan, a sea serpent, in connection with alcoholism. Leviathan alludes to water and chaos, such as in multiple stories in Genesis. Spirit of Dionysus might make more sense. I think Noah got hammered one night. Maybe he was cabrewing. Maybe someone could enlighten us on the reasoning.

So is there a specific devil spirit for alcohol?

Take some time to drink on it?