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No . . . the answer is "It was handled in The Class".
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I don't know which sentence to pick so how about that one. Quite the art in assuming so much in every sentence. It's not like anyone ever saw the worship manifestations have any positive effect. A simple demonstration of their practicality would have inspired some to go for it. Manifestations were no different than drinking too much at a Fraternity Party to be accepted. They were damaging, yet people kept doing it.
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When not be clear in the class? Why clues? What's the point of a CLASS? And yes we know PFAL made VPW AF-FLUENT. *cue duck*
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Wait . . So the scripture came by Holy peoples of Gawd who spake . . . So it was basically like writing down Interpretation of Tongues which is Prophecy except for when it is not . . . That's why to whom is so important cause you have to remember who was present in those first century Twig Fellowships . . . It must of been confusing to hear "study my Word" when the Canon hadn't been established . . . So that's why the word hadn't been know since the first century. . . It wasn't even written yet . . . So how did they see it in the original? You have to remember that is all interprets itself in the end.
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And if the Devil doesn't like it he can Syntax. . . . Misheard lyrics makes sense now
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Speaking in Tongues needed to sound like a language. Elements of language needed to be present. As apposed to silly sounds (which as kids it was a game to get away with, but like I said, you always got caught). There was a proper way to do it, and each person had their individualized spin on it. Such consistency by each individual to be different does not suggest to me another being is behind everyone making this happen. A random wall, a few windows leaning against it, and a pile of shingles are elements of a house. But they are not a house. They need to be formed together in useful and purposeful ways. On the Day of Pentecost people were present who could affirm a language they knew was being spoke. That is a story. Stories were told of people SITing French. Just like stories about curtains. I believe speaking in tongues is a thing, well the act is a a thing and the label of SIT is thrown on it. This thing has no practical utility. Language does. Speaking in Tongues is not a language, and the burden of proof lies on those who claim it is. I agree Interpretation of Tongues was just virtue signaling. You knew what the group wanted to hear and you did it. You formed a message as you understood what was wanted of you by the group. You were lying to you. Interpretation and prophecy pushed you further from yourself. It was a process of becoming a facade to yourself. So was door to door witnessing, but the feedback was usually a little more honest.
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The anxiety didn't begin or end with the class. You had fellowships and excellor sessions regularly. I felt it for decades. You were being forced to interpret on the spot random noises you had made up on the spot. The random sounds couldn't be just any random sounds either. They had to be convincing. The interpretation had rules. As children we all knew who in children's fellowship was faking and who was not. Kids test boundaries. There were rules and they bound the mind. It could not be faked. Speaking in Tongues in TWI was abuse. Interpretation of Tongues was indoctrination. The process was extremely constricting.
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My understanding of Rorschach tests is the blots are NOT random. Speaking in tongues is. Interpretation of Tongues would be more like divining goat entrails.
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This Swan person has shown up on my feed for years. Her content is mostly uninteresting and I disagreed with her conclusions. Until months ago when I happened to try again and heard something that I really didn't like. Her communication was not straightforward, and it felt like knives. Her boring videos were a facade. She clearly had a messed up upbringing. Familiar behaviors are present. It's someone you could watch build a fantasy world in real time.
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https://mormonstories.org/podcast/teal-swan-jared-dobson/
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I don't know how anyone gets past session twelve. Even more so the intermediate class. A a Twig Fellowship. The Manifestions were human torture. There was a sadistic element to them.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaking_in_tongues "A 1973 experimental study highlighted the existence of two basic types of glossolalia: a static form which tends to a somewhat coaction to repetitiveness and a more dynamic one which tends to free association of speech-like elements."[73][70] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_association_(psychology) There's this
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Like Rorschach, before Freud babble nonsense . . . interpret . . . the message came from God, right?
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"Other artists, like Dalí, looked to dreams for inspiration." . . . Like with Jung.
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https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-understanding-the-persistence-memory-salvador-dalis-surrealist-masterpiece (interesting mention surrealism being related to Freud) "By splattering paint, allowing materials to fall and be placed according to chance, and doodling around the resulting shapes and composition, the artist essentially removed their agency as much as possible from the creative process." Removal of agency . . . like with Manifestations?
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WIKI LINK Mr. Bosch's work very clearly interprets itself.
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I have a false memory of that too. His paintings were full of apparent errors according to some . . . the actual errors were seen more clearly when looking at them up close
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This confuses me. Blue is overused. Seems an expensive dye back then. The Pottery Barn look in the back is oddly blue. Maybe they didn't know about blue back then? Joseph appears to be pointing out the kid isn't his, for reasons.
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Scripture Interprets Itself
Bolshevik replied to Bolshevik's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
No, I think people had seen apples before. Calculus might have help. A person can choose to look at the Bible as a list of actual events. I don't know why that's a discussion. -
Scripture Interprets Itself
Bolshevik replied to Bolshevik's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
I wood that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied . . . That's like nonsense interpreting itself . . . Right??? Babbling interpret by who or what?? -
Scripture Interprets Itself
Bolshevik replied to Bolshevik's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
Okay . . . If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it . . . does scripture still interpret itself? -
Scripture Interprets Itself
Bolshevik replied to Bolshevik's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
Well this got heavy. -
Scripture Interprets Itself
Bolshevik replied to Bolshevik's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
Isaac Newton witnesses an apple fall from a tree. It meant something to him. Nobody witnessed him witnessing this. Some say it hit his head.