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"We have Christ in us, the hope of glory (Colossians 1:27). We have the potential of Christ’s heart, commitment, and ability to reach others with God’s powerful Word of deliverance." Christ in you to The Way means Christ's potential. Christ is absent, it sounds.

https://thewayinternational.com/reconciling-others-in-christs-stead/ What about "in stead of Christ"?

I think I indicated I spent time, often playing on The Book of Life, just looking up random people. Other times I would receive angry calls at 2 am, look the person up, and see if they were M&A or something else. (Other times nut-jobs would show up on HQ grounds in person at all hours). Yes they know if you are on the "naughty list" and other info. But I think Rocky was saying people move a lot and mailing addresses are hard to maintain over decades at times. I don't know that The Book of Life was connected to the internet or anything. Just old technology with the green cursor box.

When God created in Genesis he spoke things into being. The Logos --> Christ --> The Word. Out of chaos came creation. As a new human being the world and life is chaos. As we grow and understand things our minds give persons, places, things, emotions, concepts, ideas etc . . . we give them names. Out of the perceived chaos our minds create meaning over time. Anytime we go into something new this happens. Not sure where I'm going with that but the connection between language and creation and The Logos I think is neat. In that way the use of language can be considered part of the act of creation.

Yes, that's why the cult leader being a void or black hole is important. Whatever good was perceived came from within the follower.

Just remember back well before 50 years ago. Maybe 75 years ago? It's something nobody needs to be taught.

Mike, What I see in your 4 paragraphs, and I appreciate brevity, is a flow chart Collaterals/PFAL --> The Bible --> Life --> Love See which way the arrows flow? Maybe try reversing the arrows? Maybe your end goal was always available without all the layers you've given yourself.

Iink? We're still responsible for out actions when drunk or high. Voluntarily attending an intense course and getting tranced by it would be the same?

Thank you for being concise. I will think on what you wrote here.

I'm thankful for term limits, unlike Belarus.

Nature abhors a vacuum.

I think you brought up "heart" earlier and I was pondering where thoughts come from in The Renewed Mind thread. So the GP is a flow chart instructing people to open up, be unguarded. I think someone here mentioned excellor/exceller sessions are meant to deal with fear. . . . Fear it sounds like was there with good reason. (Proverbs 4:23)

Can I put myself in your shoes? I could, but I don't know you, other than you present yourself as someone with vast knowledge the works of VPW. I have taught classrooms and I know to have various ways to explain concepts ready because not everyone thinks the same. I've asked you to explain what on earth VPW's works were about, and why anyone should waste their time trying to decipher their cryptic messages? I'm asking you to get to the point and be concise. This is the internet.

Second, the collaterals are hard to understand, if that is even possible. So I began asking humans. Humans who have read the collaterals can't explain the collaterals. Asking God for something doesn't make any imperative for him to answer.

I've done both many times.

I think of VPW, for a mental model, as on the dark end of the spectrum . . . to be so committed to what he did over and over. He was a void, nothing was really there. He was never what he claimed, regardless of how many agreed with him. People circle the void seeing a false image. Drawn to a fantasy. If VPW is removed (dies), it's still a void. The fantasy isn't all him.

Please expound on what the "ministry of reconciliation"? The Word, The Law of Believing, the Gift, Christ. . . You're not telling me why anyone would want these things

Absolutely the repetitive part . . . Repeat until the topic is accepted past your instinct I make flash cards to memorize topics and also use them on my kids . . . Especially when there's such large volumes of information to absorb . . From that angle what's NOT indoctrination? This is an A, accept that, This is a B, This is a C etc . . . But the cards usually have a bigger connection to topics outside themselves If you're memorizing a new alphabet, you accept the information as fact to build on later

Yeah. . . I was just thinking they had those cards with the verse on one side and the topic on the other. Training in non-sequitor. . . Just associating a topic to a verse.. You're not building understanding and coming to your own conclusions Isaiah 26:3 can be used to convince people that by focusing on The Word, they are focused on God. And likely not consider what they are really doing. . . . Just a simple little card

I quoted Mike 20-some hours ago and he hasn't answered. . . .

Retemories . . . Because I can instantly quote Isaiah 26:3 having not thought of the verse in years, and having zero clue of the context . . . But the Word "stayed" suddenly makes me annoyed . . .

. . . They won't get it . . . They'll send a picture of a Horn of Plenty full of coins . . .

The postcard reminds me of death. I'm sure there's a lot of folks out their who just want to see familiar faces one more time.

Sectors? . . . Nevermind If The Word takes the place of the Absent Christ what's the holy spirit (lowercase) for? And if believing works for Saint and sinner alike what's The Word for? And if no man knoweth the hour what is anyone missing by Jesus being Absent? It's all out of anyone's hands anyway.

It's like they record information the day they encountered you knowing you could be liability one day.