Bolshevik

Nope. My understanding of analogy is not the problem. At least you've not shown for that to be the case.

the phrase "your walk" strongly implied we are talking people's lives You already stated the doctrine was in The Bible. Although your initial post doesn't say you got your information from The Bible. So it begs the question what doctrine are you trying to discuss???? Chaos and order would make more sense in the Doctrinal Forum if they were metaphysical in nature. You used doctrine, chaos and order in the same sentence in your initial post. Maybe you are trying to equate physics with The Bible?

Your analogy gives the impression that we should be drug through life. Or at least, drag ourselves through life. It sounds depressing. Plus it begs the question on what exactly the "doctrine" is that we should have knowledge of. You mention order and chaos, that there's some sort of guarding system for the doctrine, but again, begging the question.

Sounds like The Way was a bait ball. So was he at the top of his system, (The Way Tree), or above it? Sounds like he had to be above it, constantly screaming at it to stay in existence. The system didn't really survive without him. And needs his ghost to continually spook current followers on. Wayfers often point to "Look at what he built" as if to validate The Way and VPW. He built nothing, if it doesn't work without him.

I think God has to be mystery or he/it/she is not a god. No God would not be bound. I think Waybrain is reductionist. It is reductionist because it is controlling. Because people are not gods they have to create a world in their mind that is oversimplified. All reasoning must be controlled in their Totalitarian System. Simple reasoning is easier to control. A forever on-going discussion, like, "What's The Trinity?", can't be controlled, can it? But I also suspect their non-trinatarian view helps in supporting other Way Doctrine.

His hypothetical analogy also appears to equate people with God.

It looks like that thread hit a wall, too. But there are some good points in there. If you have The Trinity, can you have Stiles version of "all nine all the time"?

Because atoms are not stupid.

I saw that. Just waiting on some evidence to validate or support his claim.

Okay, so why is the Trinity humorous? If you find it funny, there's something that rubs you the wrong way about it and I'd like if you'd articulate those reasons clearly.

Rrobs, You think and post like others I know, off the internet. You are not those people, probably, but your mind is clearly framed same as theirs since the reasoning is almost exactly similar. Sort of exercise, posting with you. I'm kinda bummed you just accused someone of being a closet Wayfer. It looks like you're just throwing in the towel. I just hoped you had more depth than that.

No.

Not sure what "you guys" means.

How'd he become king if we didn't vote for him? Power corrupts. Hopefully the system has measures in place that allow corrections to be made now that it is obvious such abuse happens. Or else it continues to become even more corrupt and eventually falls.

Trolling . . .

Well, it's a Trinity.

Not being clever. We're not trolling, remember? Doesn't the trinitarian view have more dimensions to consider?

Or you might say the one that does not make sense is more valid. If you can make sense of it then it is probably too much of a simpleton as far as any god is concerned.

Absolutely. Doesn't everything work that way?

What about them? (I'm asking in all seriousness)

I would start a new thread about "The Mystery" if that's what you'd like to discuss. I think you missed the point of my post. I wasn't neither arguing for or arguing against TWI/Bullinger's take on "The Mystery". It served a role in TWI/VPW dogma. There are perspectives in which The Trinity makes sense. One that doesn't involve some conspiracy theory to force the idea on people. If you can't see from those perspectives, of course it just won't make sense.

I think it's called Hanlon's Razor. I thought a lot of what happened was tests for signs of intelligence before assuming malevolence.

There. Assertions challenged.

I knew that trick too. Or show up last, and hope there's a table of 5 with 8 servings.

Was just being silly. Yes, he was probably conflating his income with his motives.