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Are You More Moral Than Yahweh?
Bolshevik replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
And atheism and fundy being on the same coin is not something I pulled out of my foot. It's a helpful rule of thumb. -
Are You More Moral Than Yahweh?
Bolshevik replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
You don't have to respond to anything. You have misrepresented a number of points. I am going through all the misinformation you have deliberately planted. It's like reading JCING again. -
If you're Foundational Class Grad, you need to get needs / want parallel and believe to receive If you're and Intermediate Class Grad, you now need be continually SITing first continue to see through to completion. If you're an Advanced Class Grad, you need to spend an afternoon finding a list of Bible verses to claim prior to action. Probably get leadership's permission first. After Way D, If you're not speaking The Word, don't expect God to hold back the Adversary and that lightbulb issue will never be solved. At Staff, We walk not by sight, God has to tell you in your heighten state of readiness to receive word of knowledge about these mystical lightbulb phenomena, it's about the Word Prevailing, not some physical need. At GSC, whether or not lightbulbs exist is personal experience and only your opinion (j/k) Does this seem the right progession? Somebody will have to explain Corps level. But it appears simple tasks become less simple the more spiritually helpless mature you get. Edited to add (unbelievers just change the light bulb, but that's due to a lack of awareness of the situation)
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Are You More Moral Than Yahweh?
Bolshevik replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
No need to feed. I've still got to look into genocide. -
Are You More Moral Than Yahweh?
Bolshevik replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
https://www.rationalchristianity.net/slavery_ot.html Slaves in the OT appear to have had it far better the slaves here in the United States did. Slaves in the U.S. of course had it FAR better than African slaves sent to the Arab world. -
Are You More Moral Than Yahweh?
Bolshevik replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
I looked into other items, but obviously being forced to marry your rapist is beyond uncomfortable to imagine. http://www.equip.org/bible_answers/how-could-the-bible-command-a-rape-victim-to-marry-her-rapist/ Again, there's more to the story. https://stephenjgraham.wordpress.com/2014/04/02/does-the-old-testament-force-rape-victims-to-marry-rapists/ It looks like the Law tried to prevent the worst possible scenarios that could be managed with the resources and understanding of the day. It was just the best they could do. (Without Yahweh wiping everyone's foot for them) -
Are You More Moral Than Yahweh?
Bolshevik replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
And apparently a simple google search clears up that picking up sticks isn't simply about picking up sticks. -
Are You More Moral Than Yahweh?
Bolshevik replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
If you've got $30 this looks interesting. http://booksandjournals.brillonline.com/content/journals/10.1163/004249310x12597406253283 This article puts forward an alternative reading of Num 15:32-36 which takes seriously the fact that the cognitive structures that go into reading the biblical Sabbath laws are narrative and visual, rather than semantic and literal. This ‘narrative’ reading sees ‘food production’ as the typical case of ‘work’ and sees ‘food production on the Sabbath’ as the ‘paradigm case’ of Sabbath-breaking. Against this background, Num 15:32-36 is a hard case because the Sabbath-gatherer’s behaviour is sufficiently far removed from the paradigm of food production to raise the question of whether the Sabbath laws could be used to resolve the problem. The uncertainty ensures that the case must be resolved by the parties concerned and since, unusually, God is the only offended party, only God can determine whether capital punishment applies and, if so, the form it should take. Ultimately, the offender’s behaviour is judged to be sufficiently close to the paradigm to deserve death because it evokes Israel’s experience of total servitude in Egypt. ‘Sabbath-gathering’ reflects a desire to return to the economic conditions associated with Pharaoh’s rule and thus signifies the rejection of YHWH’s lordship. -
Neutrality of some positions can be quite ambiguous in recent times.
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Are You More Moral Than Yahweh?
Bolshevik replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
I looked into "sociopath" and I'm not sure that works in my case. I am sure you can finds some words that do. This thread is clearly a work of satire. Since, "If God is so great why do we suffer and die" is probably the simplest form of the thread's argument. There is nothing that can't be argued as a lack of Yahweh's ability. The argument has strict categorical thinking that makes it difficult to follow any flow of logic. A flow chart was intended to help find the missing thought or thoughts. -
Are You More Moral Than Yahweh?
Bolshevik replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
I am rereading and reading this thread. -
Are You More Moral Than Yahweh?
Bolshevik replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
Perhaps the missing piece is key to Waybrain. Why withhold that information? -
This is the big Xs and little xs from PFAL?
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Are You More Moral Than Yahweh?
Bolshevik replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
Flowchart: Yahweh says don't pick up sticks or you get stoned to death ----> I disagree with that concept -----> I am therefore more moral than Yahweh What more should be added to this flow chart? -
Are You More Moral Than Yahweh?
Bolshevik replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
And that's what was said here? The previous article I posted on this said, paraphrasing, we disagree with each others morality. Each of us thinks ourselves more moral than everyone else. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/most-people-consider-themselves-to-be-morally-superior/ So we could just remove the Old Testament then because I think that might be the confusion (see I disagreed again) Ah, so by definition, we can't, are unable, to think of ourselves as less moral? (am I any closer?) -
Are You More Moral Than Yahweh?
Bolshevik replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
Right, to exist is to disagree. -
Are You More Moral Than Yahweh?
Bolshevik replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
So, since the opening post assumes we can compare moralities, we should be able to construct a comparison chart. Maybe list everyone on GSC, who are more moral than Yahweh, and rank them by morality. Maybe a system of points to assign relative moralities to every individual? This should inspire low scorers to pick it up a little -
Are You More Moral Than Yahweh?
Bolshevik replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
Did VPW kill people for picking up sticks? No. So he was more moral than a fictional character. -
Are You More Moral Than Yahweh?
Bolshevik replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
Are you more moral than VPW? Now we're comparing real people to real people. Would anyone follow such a guy? No, they'd never admit they would. And if they did follow him, and found out what he did, they'd stop following IMMEDIATELY. Hypothetically. -
Are You More Moral Than Yahweh?
Bolshevik replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
So how to make "Are you more moral than Yahweh?" into a logical question? -
Are You More Moral Than Yahweh?
Bolshevik replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
So, assuming the OT God is there, we don't have a real will which means our morality is not a choice, at least in some instances but since he doesn't exist . . . we wouldn't do that killing for picking up sticks, hypothetically So we are comparing ourselves to a fictional character. Are you more moral than the Green Goblin? The Green Goblin is a terrible example to put forth. He can't exist. Not today. None of us can relate. -
Are You More Moral Than Yahweh?
Bolshevik replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
Not necessarily talking determinism, as much as God gets in there and decides your thinking. That's f'd up. Like spurts and the wedge thing in LCM world. -
Are You More Moral Than Yahweh?
Bolshevik replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
(And don't say anything about free will!!) I just did. -
Are You More Moral Than Yahweh?
Bolshevik replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
So we are talking about Yahweh. God of the OT. Yahweh hardens peoples hearts. Kinda implies lack of free will then? Since he never changes, he is the same today. God is evil. Because he doesn't allow free will.