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Thank you for clarifying...makes sense! I wonder if he ever went for any treatment outside of the BOD praying for him---?

Ugh...what lecherous OLD men!!

I just re-read VPW's death certificate. The first condition listed is the primary cause of death. Interestingly, metastatic melanoma means the cancer began in the skin [melanoma], spread to the liver and then to the eye, in that order. Because he was such an extreme alcoholic, I'm amazed that it didn't start in his liver and spread outwardly.

Back in the 1960's, my uncle had a home movie camera and used these BLINDING bar-lights similar to flood lights. Everyone in the home movies looked like we were always laughing, but in truth we were squinting deeply from the pain!!

The STFI homepage is still down since back in April. That is the page that identifies who they are etc. What remains is a note that says, "Current status: Working on the brand new STFonline.org! We hope you like it! Check back soon!" Then they have a few links to their subsequent usual links. What kind of outreach is this in the 21st century? Not terribly professional in their IT knowledge. You never take down your intro page to improve it. You leave the original while making changes in another environment; then upload the new, have an announcement banner that remains for about a month on the new page.

Well, that just shows you what a NON-innocent Wanda is! To marry this lying, predatory old geezer knowing what he did to/with young women. There is just no accounting for wisdom, brains, taste...blah!

Is "Uncle" Howard the only one remaining from Wierwille's orginal gang?

Threw it all out long ago. Stuff needs dusting, and I wasn't spending one more minute dusting! Brings a new perspective to 'ashes to ashes...'

And as a college football player, LCM learned to revere his coach, never say no, and always respond to commands made by those in authority. VPW used Craig's dedication against him and to Victor's advantage. When TWI switched their actions from simple authoritarian to Full-Blown MEAN, they went from operating as disciplined atheletes in competition to 'at-war', kill-or-be-killed military men. The colonel in the movie Avatar comes to mind...always RIGHT no matter what the evidence shows...

What was all of this dismissal about...the youngest son?

There was a time when a lot of places in the USA felt like Mayberry. It wouldn't hurt to recapture a lot of how they lived; lovingly and simply. I wanna go fishing again...with just a simple pole and a bucket of bait.

YEP!

The NFL football player used that as the title for his book [published in 1970]about his friendship with Brian Piccolo. The movie was made in 1971. Gale Sayers was a "great running back on the field and a great friend off the field" says Brian. The story includes the importance of faith in Gale Sayer's life. He concludes "The lord is first, my friends are second, and I am third." http://www.amazon.com/Am-Third-TV-tie--Inspiration/dp/0142000752/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335989292&sr=8-1 Yep---another plagiarsim from that cornfield preacher-thief!

DFAC---this is an example of true INSANITY. They are eliminating followers and think they are winning people for God.......! :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

It is scary to think they believe they have ANY kind of biblical authority. They are accountable to no one for any checks and balances.

There website has been down for awhile now...for restyling http://www.stfonline.org/

Are there Fragments of CES? I would imagine that if someone left them, it would be because they no longer trust what has been taught...so why continue leftover teachings from TWI and CES/STF?

MULTIPLE WAVES of nausea!!

Not relevant to what? It is an valid term. I have heard that there have been cases where one person speaks in tongues and another in the room understands it. However, in my experience it is still rumor. in all my years in TWI and in Charismatic churches, I've never personally seen this occur. And yes, TWI leaders will have to answer for all the injuries and premature deaths [including abortions]they caused by their STUPID encouragements!

I have a friend who stepped out on their believing and SIT and dumped their daily insulin shots. Almost died, but remains blind and debilitated. Just did as he was instructed...'prove me now sayeth the Lord of Hosts..."

Interesting that the names are listed in Alpha order by FIRST name. I did see John Schoenheit listed, and John Richeson.

Really? I thought this was justa 'Christian phenomenon'. I really need to get out more!

I never saw any difference in quality of life or answers to prayer because of SIT. It obviously didn't work that way for anyone or we would have been saved from TWI much sooner! I often wondered if it were to be merely a sign of rememberance that Pentecost happnened...nothing less and nothing more. A form of 'just checking' if you will.

VPW set up the marriage between Donna and LCM. Maybe it was deliberate? He knew that Donna was attracted to girls, so he said he'd help her get over that, but she didn't change. Because he was a father figure to such a young woman, I'm positive she bared her soul about her struggles. VPW encouraged Craig to sleep with all the women to 'become more spiritual' like him, and as a hook to keep Craig's adoration aka his PUPPET. It may be possible that VPW schemed that Donna, being a lesbian would not care one bit. It would mean that Craig would leave her alone... There would be a married PUPPET minister at the helm. just a thought.