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Reminds me of the Lamaze technique during child delivery! LOL

Oh Gosh...I met Phil in the mid 70's before he was married. He was so clean cut and seemingly kind and upright. So damned maddening to realize how these men allowed themselves to be so easily seduced by evil corruption.

Heck no...she was a high school graduate who never attended college. Worked at the Way of CA office at about 19 I think, and worked her way to Ohio to be on staff. She was only a secretary, and from those I know who worked with her...not even a good one.

Considering she has never held a REAL job, this is just laughable.

That is beyond heartbreaking... :-(

I stumbled across this page and wondered Who The Heck?? Only identification is a contact address in Belize. http://eternallyblessed.org/ Oh...and they had this link...shudder! http://eternallyblessed.org/archive/downloads/1810/pdf/1982-LV-Program.pdf

Rocky, this may be the link you want. https://www.preachitteachit.org/articles/detail/surviving-the-desire-to-be-known/

Grace; it is beyond me how any human being can justify their predatory behavior, especially with young girls/children. A seared conscience comes to mind...

No idea if this is close to what you remember...but it sure looks like an AMAZING recipe! https://www.rockrecipes.com/dirty-rice-beans-soup/

In order to be heard and to release the negativity, she went public with the story in 2014. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2850582/Daughter-27-confronts-father-handing-cult-leader-raped-years-saying-God-s-word-just-13.html

Twinky; excellent insight! Manson was a discarded child...spent most of his childhood in juvenile detention and foster care I think from the age of about 11. No family and no love. Notice how he called his followers his family? He probably developed schizophrenia from terrible early, emotional traumas; a broken soul. No idea why any of his followers were mesmerized by him. I think a few of them actually came from good upbringings. For me, I was raised in a very loving home with good friends and support. I felt a hollowness with formal religions and TWI offered something I had never heard previously...to build a personal relationship and knowledge of God the creator. And I could help others who felt that void. That was it...plain and simple. I went on the WOW field with that starry-eyed goal, and have maintained some of those friendships from the 70's. Went in Family Corps...but could see that things were glaringly hollow and problematic, and the control over every little thing was choking us. Even though I gave 18 years of my life believing what they taught, I had no problem leaving it all behind once made up my mind to go. I only heard the uglies when WayDale surfaced. It and The Cafe explained the explainable.

Leslie Van Houten: She is up for parole consideration today. My gosh she was only 19 when she got drawn into the cult of Manson, and is 69 yrs old today. She was a young kid who stupidly followed orders [and yes two people died], but she has paid with her life and freedom all these years. I wonder what would become of her if she was released? How would she survive? No friends [or family?] on the outside. https://www.foxnews.com/us/court-wonders-if-it-can-rule-on-manson-followers-parole

This isn't always the case. After 25 years as a highly successful remodeling contractor, Dan Gallagher gave it all up to join STFI, then their top leadership were split up, then he was only other leader besides Scheonheit, and then DG was finally removed. So oddly enough, he DID have real-life job success, and yet returned to that which was all built on a cult. Nuts!

Does anyone know if this R&R Group just faded off into the sunset?

Been watching Leah Remini's expose of Scientology on the A&E channel. They have a location like TWi, hidden away in the hills of Riverside county CA.

Chainclanker2; they are no longer married. His current wife is named Carol. Gerald Wrenn is 'friends with my friends' on FB.

They all just cannot let go of telling people they have the truth. Sheesh....just go and live life!

I thought they all divorced each other.

Thank you Taxidev...sad how these folks just can't let it go and just go live life.

I went to their front page...and it requires a password. I'm confused! Who are they? https://revivalandrestoration.org/

Oye...I'm dumbfounded on that "new" revelation. I don't think it will sell very well, especially if he is trying to convert those who converted from TWI to CES to STF, and now his "Lean On Jesus." Even that title is not new!

Thank you all for the information update. Years ago I read Kahler's and Skegdell's books, and just recently finished Lamy's first hand account. People choose to stay asleep and hoodwinked it seems. Just when I thought it couldn't be more weird, it is more weird than I could have ever thought!! Every brother is fair game for decapitation at some point in WierdWorld.

I looked around to find a definition of the "new R&R" group, but couldn't find it. Of whom are you speaking?