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Carol Welch absolutely insists that I state that I didnt meet her until she registered at MoChat in 2007. Well, she is correct. And a valuable person she truly is! A real ace poster.

There was a site called JWO, which, back in 2004 or 5 a large number of GSC posters joined. I was not admin of that board, merely a poster there. Considerable attacks upon the admin here were launched at that site by numerous GSC posters. MoChat is a completely different board, of which I am admin. A number of GSC posters are registered there but only a handfull post regularly. During the 3 year existance of MoChat there have been 2 or 3 flurries of registration by GSCers, mainly to argue over certain issues. There was a lengthy arguement over some private ladies only room, with a couple of new registrees stoking a bitter arguement on that subject. More recently some chap who left here, Satori 1 I think, joined and prompted a period of discussion on GSC matters again. My board seems to periodically attract GSCers who wish to dissent on matters of admin over here at GSC. Well, they are free to discuss those matters if they wish. I dont direct what posters can discuss/ not discuss. Exy, DMiller, Carol Welch are all people I personally love, and who I met her at GSC in 2004/5. Im very happy they post at my little board. Ive never seen the admin over here mentioned by name, that I can recall. Most GSC registrees signed up there are now deactivated. Im not really interested in a bunch of lurkers coming over there for no purpose other than to read fights and join in and start fight threads. Thanks awfully! (Refiner)

Modern Chat is not any kind of Anti GSC or anti PawT board. It is merely a posting board, largely populated by ex JWs, where a number of ex TWI posters also post. They are all very welcome and their input deeply appreciated. I commented today that, looking thru the entirity of content in the Modern Chat TWI room, there may be as many as 10 threads which reference matters pertaining to the administrative decisions of this GSC board. Well that is fair discussion in my view. If Modern Chats 12 or 15 ex TWI posters wish to criticize admin here, they are free to do so. If those posters wish to praise admin here, they are free to do so. If they wish to reference discussions here and cut paste comments, they are free to do so. Fact is, they are free to discuss anything they so desire, if they wish to do so. Many thanks- Refiners Fire. Modern Chat admin.

My mrs says that I snore like crazy mainly if ive had a drink, as in booze.

It took me a good while to notice that there are two ships in that initial picture. :blink:

Pretty Nasty group apparently. There was a stink over here a few years back (oztraylia) where the government moved in removing children from the group cause they were concerned the kids were being molested. Having read a bit of there material I can say that, yeah, there are reasons to be suspicious, with a tendancy to sexualize kids ( and everything!) being quite apparent in their literature. Apparently the founder, Berg, was a real shagrat. Lookin thru their book " Thrilling Pictures of the Future", there sure are a lot of very scantily clad people in it.... and some of them loook...umm... well, pretty young.

I think I will JL! You inspire me to mouthwatering action!

Phillipians 4 verse 8 brothers: "Finally, whatever things are true, whatever things are of serious concern, whatever things are righteous ( Is Arthur Hailey walking in truth?) whatever things are chaste (is a true crime novel chaste?) :blink: ........." Ah yes.

Well Rocky, Ive been on diets and lost weight spectacularly. The only problem is, one cannot hold to those requirements forever because one feels hard done by eating such tiny serves. As long as I can EAT it shouldnt be a problem. My experience was at Weight Watchers, who set a weight stipulation that you are obliged to attain. They insisted I be a weight, 78 kilos, that I didnt want to be. So I dropped out after getting to the weight I was happy with. 92 Kilos. 200LB.

How many of these has everyone known. Some wannabe servant councelling you before witnesses because you are sat by the pool reading an Arthur Hailey novel.

Ah thanks Sudo. You have explained the whole thing in very clear terms in less than a paragraph! I see it clearly now. Many thanks. And yes. Im eating exactly the stuff that I shouldnt be eating. :blink:

Where does bread fit in? I eat a lot of bread. I dont mind excluding certain foods, but I dont want to spend my life living on tiny portions meat with a pile of lettuce.

Sudo, anyone, Im stupid, and fat. What foods are carbohydrate? I might try the method you espouse. Thanks.

I dont think that the leaders are sat there systematically planning methods to control their followers. I dont think they are conscious of that at all. Well, perhaps L Ron Hubbard, but most of the others, no. I think the leadership are trapped within the system as well, and are basically obsessed with not allowing a lamb to be lost and are rationalizing their decisions in their own minds because they are telling themselves they must desperately "protect" the household from the infection of worldly influence and the snares of Satanic influence. And so these control methods spontaneously generate within the group by virtue of it being a seperationist group with no external checks/balances and by virtue of its being a totalism. Considering that all cults basically manifest the same control methods, we must either say that all the cult founders have either read Hitlers Mein Kampf and Stanley Millikin and are fully versed in the methods of control, which they then wickedly set about implementing so as to fleece and flog the flock, or there is some other cause for these control methods generating within the group.

Enough to stop further questioning or consideration right there.