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Hi Abi! Always a pleasure to see you. Just a note on something that I noticed, Rainbows Child is asking a question of the entire board because she is confused about something that she has been taught. Presumabley some of what she has been taught came from the woman known on the boards as Rainbows Girl with whom RChild has lived for the past 6 years and looks upon as a mother. The similarity in the names may cause some readers to confuse the two and their points of view.

My dear Rascal, God grieves and cries and feels deep pain and anger for the betrayals. This is a perfect example of taking the Lord's name in vain. God does not abandon us but we sometimes are tricked, beguiled and bewitched into ignoring Him. But He is still there. God will repay. And you, gentle one will be reunited with the one you lost.

One of the first things that I noticed was that when a coworker smiled at you...they meant it....there was no hidden agenda or feeling that another shoe was about to be dropped. Oh yes nearly forgot the rift between my brother and I just seemed to get bigger. And I just found out from my other brother that despite reports otherwise the first bro is still an innie...hmmm...something he forgot to mention the last time I saw him. Imagine that. But life outside twi...awsome!

Double ditto on the stories ASpot! Keep em coming...

I think the price has gone up. So you found Uncle Juan to be taste did you? Hmmmmm....

Wouldn't it tho...it would give away my postion and all the "bisquits" would get away!

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't this a good example of using the Lords name in vain?

I only got one question...Do you get air bisquits from eating shark fin soup?

Ya'll rememeber that song by Joyful Noise, "Gathering of the Family"? I just love that song...it makes me think of this place in many ways. We arent home yet, but we can gather here at the Spot and help each other explore all the dark recesses of our past. This place is a manifestation of the body of Christ, each person doing their part to help another. What one cannot do another can and so we all move together down the road of life, periodically helping others or being helped as we stumble over past distractions or our own big feet. When someone falls behind someone inevitably runs back to help them up so they can move forward a little easier. All of us heading for the same place, one step at a time. We are a family, we dont always agree with one another, we dont always see each others point of view. It isn't for lack of trying..it is simply that we cannot understand what we have never experienced. But we grow a little when we do comprehend that maybe we dont need to understand everything because somebody else will "get" what you dont. Someone else can help what you cant, hence we all can continue to move forward and walk and grow as a family as the body of Christ. Rainbowsgirl is right God will bless us all because He doesn't forget anyone or miss anyone. In truth we all can start our "thanks" with Jesus Christ and work our way from there. The hundreds of thousands of faceless (to us) believers that came before us in many ways paved the road for us to walk upon. Some left research or thoughts on paper for us to read that may help our understanding others just helped them write it. The believers that we know today in our lives are in our lives for a reason and should never be pushed away for we all have something to learn or to give to each other. So to the thousands of believers that have personally touched my life whether alive in my lifetime or not, Thank you, for your stand, for your love for God and His Son Jesus Christ. Thank you for the love that you showed to me that helped to shape the person that I am today. Thank you for all that you gave and continue to give, Thank you for listening to God and doing His will no matter the consequences. In short Thank you for sharing your life, your heart, your knowledge and your wisdom. I would not be who I am today had it not been for any of you. And to all fellow GreaseSpotters...Thank you all for showing me how the body of Christ is supposed to work, imperfect as we all are, we can yet strive for the perfection of Jesus Christ together.

OMG! Aunt Ethyl is that you?! Lovely shade of brown.... Yes we are all certifiably nuts...especially Mr. Ham...I have come to the conclusion that it is a side effect of being in der vey.

You were Rich@rd C@@ks WOW brother?! Sweet! He is a great guy! I learned a lot about patience and organization from that man. God love him, I do too!

Look it's Cedric my ugly cousin! He's a camera hog.... Jeepers Creepers where'd you get those peepers? Jeepers Creepers where'd you get those eyes?............. Piece of candy go for a swim little squirrel?

Not when they are carrying filet knives!!! :blink:

Be very careful when you answer the door! http://youtube.com/watch?v=J65yRvN8DPs

Kind of afraid of that forum right now...someone noticed my nice pretty fins and suggested...shark fin soup! Yikes! I'm heading for deeper water...at least until after dinner. Save me some........

No apology necessary. ((((((Kathy and Jean))))))

In truth as I began to read her post I also thought that it was in the wrong place. But as I continued I realized that Kathy was just writing her thought process down. She was summerizing the "events" and posts that brought her to the final decision to even come into this forum and participate. Because of this she felt compelled to express her great love and thankfulness to everyone because in breaking through that barrier she is now realizing a new level of deliverance from the darkness in which she has lived since leaving twi. The beauty of her post is that it would fit nicely into several threads that I can think of off the top of my head. Does that help clear up the confusion a little?

There was a topic? :wacko:

Not the people in it Oak! Just that nasty corn filled state! I'll get over it someday....renew your mind Eyes!

John, I know that you did not address me but I am going to take the liberty of answering for my friend. (I am fairly certain that she will not mind) She has a lot to say and a lot to be thankful for. It was necessary for her to share the contents of her post on this thread, in this manner so that she could say in all humility this final statement and know that others will understand where it is coming from: If you do not really understand the heart and love behind the statement it only means that you do not know Kathy very well. But no she did not mean to be posting on any other thread but this one. I apologize if this sounds harsh or callous or anything else negetive this would not reflect my intent. BTW Kathy- Great post! I love you too!!

This is wonderful! And I think a great piece of the puzzle that will eventually heal those still in the whole condemnation cage that they are trapped in. And how can the nature of spirituality be so twisted? Well it is just my opinion but twisting the Bible and hence the spiritual meaning is not so very difficult...especially if you have an agenda. Matthew 24:24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible. Well that about sums up a bunch don't it?

'Cid As you have undoubtably noticed this is a touchy point here on GS. Especially in this particular Forum. For many it is difficult if not impossible to seperate The Word/Bible from PFAL and PFAL from VPW. I am not certain why but I do have a theory. As a child I was in a very serious accident while my family and I were traveling back home to Nevada from Michigan. The accident took place in Lincoln Nebraska. For me as a child it was extremely traumatic. The strange thing about this "trauma" incident. It left on my psyche the imprint that Nebraska (the whole state) is evil. Cars arent evil, people arent evil ...nothing else was to blame...it was Nebraska. To this day I avoid that state as much as possible. I think that something similar to this occured to many people concerning the Bible/PFAL/VPW. I know that my hatred of Nebraska is ridiculous...but you are not going to convince me to go there anytime soon. How much more adament will an argument be raised when it comes to The Bible? I think that you would enjoy the Doctrinal forum. We dont usually get to Wayish in there. We like to go outside the box quite a bit and "amok" sometimes and we learn a lot about the Word and each other. To make a very long story short...I was chastised for not using the books specifically sanctioned by twi to conduct a simple word study. I used an...dare I say it?...an online referance guild/concordance/lexicon. Its an amazing tool! But it's "online". Ridiculous! Mostly I just read the Bible and contemplate. But in the instance above I was working on a more "detailed" and analytical type of project. I admit that I generally enjoy reading your posts. At first you were a bit rough. It appeared that you came into a room where you knew nobody with guns blazing and looking for a fight. But as time wore on you have calmed down considerably. I do understand the desire to be heard and respected. But here at the Spot respect is given and earned rather slowly, and you are beginning to gain some. When I decided to answer your question is when I felt that it was asked with a true desire to hear and listen to the answers given, hence out of a desire to understand. Your honest response to my answer and other's answers has proven it out that you truly did wish to engage in dialog and perhaps understand us. I think that we will get along just fine. We may not always agree but we can still discuss things and be civil with one another.

Yes I could, and have. There are times when I am asked by other Christians what "The Way" was like, more specifically what it was like being in a cult. I share both the good and bad. But all from my own personal perspective as I cannot speak for others. I share what I know and what I believe to be true. And yes that includes the "indiscretions" of vp and all the horrors associated with that. Like Dooj I try not to associate the man with my life at all. I never followed him but I did follow the ministry. In many ways they cannot be seperated. But had I known then what I know today about the man, I never would have stayed. In that light I tell others.