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And what would that be Larry.

And people wonder why Paul had to say what he said. Here it is right here on this thread. I ain't annoyed or angry or anything like that. It's good you guys are not running countries. Might want to read your own posts and see who is shooting who. You boys are shooting yourselves. Any other threads you want to make into a war? By your own doing, no one even helping ya. Look into the mirror. Your hatred is showing. ------------------------------------------------- Great post Roy, see ya around.......

I guess these are sensitive people that interpret relaying info as an attack. While still others perceive scriptures being quoted as an attack. So I can relate to both perceptions here. I was just presenting facts on gnostic as you were dww. Perhaps we can lay off perceiving how each of us ought to be. I have known the definition of gnostic but not gnosticism. I learned this definition as you did, in the way, not that this is where you learned it. And the way of gnosticism here. Though I am still learning more from many sources as well as learning other things.

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Well....???? How could one see Paul with so many great examples set before us of "believers"? You see Shifra, just about the only good thing about all that time in twi, was that I read a lot of bible. There might have been a sliver of gold, but who could see it? When so many were and are as exactly as you describe. As here where ww can't even see what I said. Even so the ears are blocked and eyes are blinded to many things.

You just don't get it. Pure rhetoric? lol.... It's like a phd trying to get a 1st grader to 5th grade. It does happen with some. But this 1st grader just keeps getting mad. Well...don't bother responding ww, I gotta go to WORK. Can't waste time with an infidel....:) But you probably will respond with more 1st grade stuff we already know. And know it so well that it's getting done.

sorry i missed this one, but had some things to do will listen to it later though

hmmm, yes i see why you can not hear what i said..... and i only touched on part of it, nothing about buddha let's hear it if you want to share or a link or something if you can't take the time to search the two sites i gave you i know you don't want to know more and i told you wiki only hit the surface yet you want to fight not me, i'll present what i can you presented 1 definition and now wtf are you trying to do? the substance of your post was Gnostic it's not anymore.........

You are mistaken in that you used a dictionary for the word from the bible instead of actually doing some searches for different ideas and meanings. The bible is NOT the only source for truth. A slew of links? I gave you two. If you don't want to learn more about it that's fine. But you are the one who said someone else didn't know what they were talking about. When it's actually you not understanding what the person is talking about. And seemingly, you do not want to look any further then the bible. Which is a big mistake imo, there is so much to be learned from many sources. And God's hand can be seen in them if you look. Most are afraid or just stubborn to consider other ideas and facts. For a variety of reasons, which I could list. But I'd rather just say be honest and consider more then you think you can. Cause it is within you to look and consider without much effort. If someone else does it for you then you won't get much from it.

Wearword, Where did you get this idea from? No one has said they reject the mystery. That's just what you are seeing that is not there. Besides an understanding of the mystery is another thing we all know in part. If we could get together on these things, much can be gained from each other via the Holy Spirit working.

You are incorrect and do not understand, wearword. I suggest you look up Gnostic in your search engine. Gnostcism and eary christian writings. As well as Marcion and the gospels you have never seen. http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/ You could start here- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism Which is a basic surface reading. Then get into what was actually happening in the 1st and 2nd centuries, which are recorded as factual and true.

Do you know what you are talking about wearword, when you say 'gnostic'? I didn't know anything about it till I heard about here at GSC. And I did some online research as well as communication with one who knows.

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Hi Abigail, lol...I did think it was Sushi for a moment there...lol... i was getting ready for the punch line!..:) Well regarding all this about women, marriage, divorce and including virgins, eunuchs, male, female husband, wife and probably more terms. I just don't buy it that he is talking about what we see with our eyes, the fleshly part of all these terms, the dictionary meaning ya know. Gotta up the thinking a bit for me for it to make sense. These are spiritual works of art, us people to which he is writing. Not many translators see it as such and have written in there own thinking. Not letting it say what it is trying to communicate about our relationship with God. And especially the Lord Jesus Christ, of which he is talking about. And the mark and avoid thing has been so abused by so many it ain't funny. I just back off of that and think common sense and just life in general. I know some times who to avoid, so they are marked by me. Because I want to avoid being caught in a trap, and protect my sanity and thinking and peace in my house and heart. I'd bet you a nickel that the translation is very screwy....maybe even a dime :)

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That's a good one wearword and shows some thinking for sure. Funny when we ask the questions the answers are in the questions usually.

I will second getting a second opinion and getting the right doctor. My wife had it done when not long after it first came out. She was wearing thick glasses or contacts. For the first year or so everything was fine. But she eventually had to wear glasses again. But not anywhere near the problem before. She can still see without glasses but wears them. Because she can see better with them. She has a good doctor and she recommends to not do it at this time again. Because they are not that bad and no guarantee to be totally glasses or contact free. Which we knew that from the first surgery. Which was quite costly. It is cheaper these days, which brings out the Doctors that are not good imo.

Thanks Abigail, and yeah Mr. Hammeroni, seems to be a big part of the journey, finding ourselves in oneness. The darn things just keep coming and we just keep seeing more of the life we have.

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Adam and Eve.... Do we see them as two or one? Gen 1:26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen 2:4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. Gen 2:7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Gen 2:21And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. 24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. 25And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed

With Adam naming the animals, seems to me he knew quite a bit. Whatever he called them, God did too. Quite a relationship for Adam to be in charge there. Whatever he called them God agreed. Doesn't say anything about anyone else involved but Adam, in contrast to what we were led to think in the way. And not saying that anyone still thinks like that, just making a point.

And direct communication with the Serpent as well. That doesn't mean they didn't know exactly what they were doing, any of them. Plus the action by Adam must be seen as intentional imo. Just a thought or two. Maybe three to four.

Cool Abi, You'll do fine, I just know you will.