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sheesh, you don't know me to well do ya!!!! twi is a hate group

sheesh...started a conversation and killed it too it seems..lol.. i know we are all busy with stuff, me too, i reckon.... thanks for the links Todd and P&S

Well, more politely, labels are to be used properly, not used as weapons or making a 'them' and 'us'. Separating and dividing people is when they suck imo. To communicate, they are needed sometimes as sirguessalot's link provides many labels that intertwine....loosing the labels and getting some wisdom and understanding.

hmmm the topic, TheEvan, is all? Or is it whatever we want it to be. Perhaps one or two verses can spark some thought. And PRODUCE more verses....Now. Who made me to differ from another? Certainly more verses in us. And yes the duality, P&S, scares many. Wars and rumors of wars-Us against Them illusion..... Digging a bit deeper into the heart. Dark And Light, Night and Day, Heaven and Hell. When this- that appears as duality becomes one then the eye is single. I have not called myself a christian for some time. Though Christ remains. Quite worldwide into the universe. Of which you may think that I am a 'christian universalist'. Labels suck.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_group

31Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out. 32And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. 33 This he said, signifying what death he should die. Was he lifted up? Then all will be drawn to him.

you could try this one it's an addon from a paid program but the addon will work by itself and is a separate download http://www.vso-software.fr/products/image_...age_resizer.php

who are we who am i i am who is i am from looking at me from looking at us from looking at why from looking at where from looking at purpose from looking at reason .................... i'm looking at me looking at me looking at me

I see the problem as in just not knowing who or what God is and Especially the Lord Jesus Christ, who - was is and will be can't hardly be found looking from the outside in from inside one must open the eyes the bible is not the way truth and life until it's seen from inside it's life then more then the bible can hold will have substance don't matter about no believing 'law' or faith what matters is love, the rest is real enough

15As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. 17Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 18No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. 36Simon Peter said unto him, Lord, whither goest thou? Jesus answered him, Whither I go, thou canst not follow me now; but thou shalt follow me afterwards. 37Peter said unto him, Lord, why cannot I follow thee now? I will lay down my life for thy sake. 38Jesus answered him, Wilt thou lay down thy life for my sake? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, The cock shall not crow, till thou hast denied me thrice. Chapter 14 1Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. 4And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know. 5Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 7If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. 8Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? 10Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. 11Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake. 12Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. 13And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it. 13Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. and then are there these http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?searc...&spanend=73 So quite the big picture I'd say......

There was no repentance here. This stands in the face of the not repenting. Forgiveness happens and is going to happen. It sweeps in waves over the spirit of man. Love is empty without it.

It was kind of fun to watch his tactics though other things were not funny. LM brought the 'gang' upon himself cause he had many who he did not finish a conversation with. Still does. So he bailed out, the little weenie. And we can all still be friendly and talk to the guy should he ever come back and really want to talk instead of get as many upset as possible then leave. Which was his plan anyway I believe. I think he's with geer or an offshoot of geer. Don't matter, I'm from the way, well from a few years back. And I can admit it, while LM did not want to say-personal problem I reckon.

We all do that RainbowsGirl imo. Most wait it out to see if they are right or wrong or things change i believe. Or perhaps that's an assumption. the old gut feeling instinct or whatever one wants to call it.......

Truthfully I think Larry wanted it to be about him. And wanted Tonto's post to represent GSC as a whole. So it always takes two or more ya know. He could have quit on this thread. Instead he did the big exit thingy. Which I've done too...lol...for different reasons though. I'm guessing that he watched this place a while before posting.

Hey Abi! Didn't know all that. But it wasn't everyone, I didn't anyway.

Well, I think if Abi was here she might rethink the group think thought :) Anyways, Larry said that about everyone at GSC, so it's from him too. Point is I think is that somehow Larry helped Abi through something. Which is good. And Larry was not run off, he left on his own, leaving us to quibble about why. Which sucks. Seems he wanted something he was not getting, so he left. Nobodies fault but his own. He can return, but I would appreciate honesty in his attitude. I mean if one honestly sees something then speak up. But don't blame everyone for what you think you see. Let people clarify what they are saying. Instead of jumping to conclusions one could have patience. And yeah I reckon change is not required but we will anyway. Whether we are here at GSC or anywhere else.

Of course we are still friends! And Larry should stick around if he can handle change as we all have. We all thought differently about many things years ago. I'm past wierwille/pfal bashing but can still point out where there is good and bad. Here we point out the bad mostly because a lot of us needed it flushed out, and still do at times. Anyway he should give GSC and us who are GSC another chance. And we can give him some slack, if he don't hog the boards....lol. If he can handle it. Some can't because of all the bad being pointed out. But there is good pointed out too and it's not pounced on as badly as it use to be. That's what I see anyway. GreseSpotCafe changes too. It was viewed by some as pro-pfal for a while imo. It's kind of balancing out and will continue to change and grow. It's when the words of pfal are used instead of using different words to communicate that usually starts trouble. That's what sickens some and fires up some. If we could stop and think and phrase things differently, hearing or speaking, it makes a difference. Peace love and all that to you all.

I'd also like to add that you, Abigail, did a good job of picking out good parts of his posts and going from there which is a good thing and we should all get better at this. I've seen a fella on another forum who was excellent at doing this in the face of insults even. So what you posted is not ignored by me, but I will try to see what you see. And get better at keeping communication progressive and not downhill. So Thanks for your thoughts.

Abigail, I don't believe it is a group think attack against Larry. His insults are back-handed and sneaky and leaves him an out for those who don't agree with him and can be taken either way. It's not honest. And you might have noticed how he was with men as opposed to women. Pretty obvious. Personally I just quit talking to 'Larry-dear' because of his attitude as Dot has pointed out. And he will not talk with me anyway, cause I question him directly, to which he will not directly answer.

the end of what times?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introspection I like it.

No thanks. Don't see any value in debating this.

Here's a generic version.. well the most generic i could find right off... http://www.executiveawareness.com/9types.htm 1 self awareness 2 awareness of others 3 doing 4 not in a rut but advancing 5 retreating or reflection 6 watching one's thoughts 7 vision 8 can decide and follow through 9 ready to show and tell

Along the 'way' believing and trust IN became believing and trust FOR. I trust and believe in the answers coming and things supplied that we need. So I keep an eye out for these things. Just live and don't worry. Believing FOR is worrying/doubt. For is really opposed to in, cause if it's b/t for, it's not b/t in.

this may only work through talkshoe-not sure yet there was no download for shoephone itself but for me it appears on the talkshoe interface. Oh and Dot, you can use your telephone to call into a broadcast or episode when it's live. anyway i got this email today- TalkShoe Members and Friends, We wanted you to be the first to know about an important announcement TalkShoe is making today about our new ShoePhone service. It's now available as an integral part of TalkShoe Live and it's free for unlimited use. ShoePhone makes connecting with other people quick and easy from anywhere on the planet – just one click to connect using a computer headset. Unlike any other service, with ShoePhone people can connect for free with others using standard telephones, mobile phones, and other voice-over-IP (VoIP) services such as Skype, SJphone, and Gizmo. You can read the official press release online. We’d appreciate if you would help spread the word in your blogs, emails, etc. Thanks. Max T. ---------- Still don't see it working like skype but will wait and see. You can use this in talkshoe for sure though.