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I have effectively killed everyone in the Way International. Except those that give birth to new things or rather let it happen. Most of them hang out here at the cafe. Some I've met other places, those who have not known man-the way-.

Dark here now, but coming up on a full moon to see what's in that darkness.

Cool Shifra.....

Good idea TheEvan, Will, what will are we willing to will. What will can we will? Plenty of choices. We do what we think we ought to do mostly, I reckon.

Oldies your faith is hate. Your calling card is hate. Your signature is hate. Ever noticed? It came from the way int. Most everyone else has shed that crapola. It is what wierwille taught and what is still taught by others who teach his stuff.

let's get specific- Faith-the way faith of which there is substance which is being demonstrated by oldies and a few others there are other quite different faiths............with substance.........

Thanks Sunesis. As you know, we tried living from the books. It don't work very well. And contradictions abound. But that which is shown in the heart, Those secrets belong to us and our children forever.

so you are experiencing the fruit of your decision oldies glad i didn't do what you do

Then we live with it, but don't blame ourselves. We learn how to avoid those mistakes again. And prosecute and warn others of 'the way' it happened.

if they were your own......

Thanks Sky, different for most everyone I reckon, though kind of the same. And the ways it comes and goes through talking, writing, singing, thinking, dreaming...

Thinking about it, there was always some kind of sex riddled through out every class by vpw. And most of it was not your normal type behavior. Evidence of where vp's mind was. Abnormal concerning men and women. Unfortunately I don't think he ever understood 'male and female' at all. And I don't think Larry was ever in the way cause all he does is pick up what he can here and go with it. Justgoogle his name in quatation marks and you can see what he has done at other forums. And Oldies is a bit different, having not much to live for-he thinks-if not defending vpw and his teachings. He defends most of them without thinking, though some he has put some thought into. I really don't think he knows what wierwielle taught, and it's motivation from vp's heart. The actions of vp don't fit with any of the fruit of the spirit. Vp's words are calloused from pfal on, against anyone who thinks differently. I really don't fault oldies or vp, ignorance and selfishness is far from God. When to be informed and selfless is so much easier. We were taught to fight for the word, yet it says let. Once we quit fighting we learn who we were fighting.

Into the heart of God. When we read the bible or other works do we reflect and see our selves? I believe this is the truth of the Word of God. It becomes us and is us as it is written in our hearts. I don't think that all the book comparing in the world can replace this. The Word in the flesh is still alive and well. Just a short observation of myself and some others. We are to live out of the heart I believe and not concordances. Although study helps some, living what comes together in the mind is Life. For those that honestly seek the Lord, they will soon find he/she/it is as close as our breath. Into the heart of God is our heart. Waiting to be unleashed.............

http://www.amazon.com/Nothing-But-Word-Mar...1191&sr=8-1 http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearc...perkins&z=y

O I believe that what we were taught in the way int. opened the doors for those acts of selfishness and crime.

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hahaha, love it!!!

Yeah there's quite a few religions in the world. I think all will experience hell and heaven. To be fair. Religion or no religion.

Who believes all that? No one I know of.

Hey TGN, yeah it seems some kind of perfection that is unreal is expected by ourselves or others that ties the tongue. Getting past that and forgetting about this notion of 'perfect' according to everyone under the sun, is a good step ahead of ourselves into selflessness. Being perfect with God is not being mistake free, since our God has his home in us and is us and we become more perfect then perfect, so that leaves out a solid definition of perfect. It can not be attained yet we already are...funny huh... Don't know if that ever tripped you up but it did me. And to be ready to answer every man, was another trip. Instead I say I don't know when I don't.

To get the answer to who or what Solomon's wives were one would have to be shown from within one's self by the Lords. I can not answer who or what Solomon's wives were. I would not be believed. But I will state that they were not people-women. In my understanding of course. I can not dictate anything to any body. You could play with this for a while though- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon

The many wives of Solomon isn't about women in the flesh. When some compare vp to Solomon, it is just ignorance. It's not even close to the same thing.

http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?q...mp;qs_version=9 Nothing wrong with using the word 'cry'. My proof is mine not George's. He will be shown his own proof, when is not my call, nor how. That's why I said he can't see it. Though he may later, I don't know, nor does it matter to me. Bound in a weird sort of way. Yes, bound, not free, weird because I don't know what it is. Could have used a different word then 'weird' I suppose, it's just unknown to me. And none of my business. But it is George's and the Lord that will come. Could have said nothing but the proof thing keeps coming up. I care, so I responded, not the right way for some apparently.

Were you insulted George?

With oldies logic all vows should be fulfilled. I'll even add vows to God, just to make it easier. So if I vow to God to do something that is wrong unknowingly. Then find out it was wrong I should fulfill this vow anyway? B.S. Oldies is just trying his best to get people upset imo. He don't even believe what he is saying, is what I think.