cman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_depravity Hate group doctrine result from Wikipedia.

Every thing I say is personal. To me for sure, others I don't know if it is or not. This is about personal attacks.

And not that I haven't engaged in getting personal, and attacking. I have.

Rather then using the term "docvic worshippers". I prefer way-brain, which I use on myself also. To me it means that only a part is affected and not the whole mind. Whereas the other term denotes total devotion to a thing. Which I'm sure there are those, but I'd rather find that part that doesn't do that in another. And there always is some part of us that they didn't get. Though they tried like crazy to do it.

I'll second that Linda. Thanks socks, you always seem to bring simple quieter living to see.

You mean this shooting at those who were abused? WAY to many statements that are not true. Or I would have just posted those. Though I understand wth doesn't want people hurting. But they have and are. Even if GSC was not here. The fact that it is, has helped many.

I'll ask you oldiesman. Do you think it was ok for VP to drug anyone?

I think they just say so sometimes and that's enough. That thread in 'about the way' started as a result of the actual things that happened. And the revealing of those things. The things they did were obviously not right from many perspectives. Including and exceeding criminal law. Which means that haven't made laws yet that cover the terrible things they did and still do. Yeah, it was and is that bad. You know, if there was just a law against adultery, that would stop some I think. Or a law that if you give money and it's called a tithe, which is a biblical term. (And has nothing to do with money but fruit) The one's that receive these tithes that are money, should be taking good care of the tither with money. And not a bunch of words by tape or auditorium or any other way. Material physical and spiritual commitment from those that take this money should be required. And documented. Teach giving equals receiving by means of money being taken. Should require the results being seen. Too bad it's not a law. Just look at the results of twi teachings. To lie is one thing. To lie for money is another. Taking it from those that believe it, but never see it. Believing what was taught and not seeing it, can be documented and has. Backup what is said with true results that benefit. Or shut them down. And return what the takers didn't spend, on themselves beyond basic needs, like expensive cars and motorcycles and homes. The takers were driving brand new cars. The givers were doing good to have a car. Or groceries and a good place to live. There should be a generally equal standard of living. Or it's a scam, no product was sold, just words for money. Yeah the WFM Corporation should have been what it was called. Pay me and I'll speak, whether my words work or not.

Psalm 139 1O lord, thou hast searched me, and known me. 2Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, thou understandest my thought afar off. 3Thou compassest my path and my lying down, and art acquainted with all my ways. 4For there is not a word in my tongue, but, lo, O LORD, thou knowest it altogether. 5Thou hast beset me behind and before, and laid thine hand upon me. 6Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is high, I cannot attain unto it. 7Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? 8If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there. 9If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea; 10Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me. 11If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me. 12Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee. 13For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb. 14I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well. 15My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. 16Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them. 17How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them! 18If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand: when I awake, I am still with thee. 19Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men. 20For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain. 21Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? 22I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies. 23Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: 24And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting. Perhaps it's Hell in God as well as heaven and more. No perhaps about it imo. It's both. In God and God in. And it looks like an "inside job" to me. With some eternal help. So you got more to think.............

If one knows nothing about hell, then why be afraid? God is in hell also. There isn't anyone who will not experience it, imo. Or God is a respecter of persons. If you ever get to the place that you will seriously look into these things. And do what it takes to find out, then you will get some answers. There are so many answers that they just keep coming. Fast and slow at times. Just get out of the way, and stop fighting everything. You have the sense to see the truth if you let go of what you have already decided.

If nothing is true here then why was johniam's response like it was? Had this been said to or about me, I'd just skip it, or say that he has wrong info. It's you both that kept bringing up the clocking thing anyway. Though I'm really not sure who I am speaking with. Don't matter, both of you kept it going.

And how and in what way is Danny behaving?

for ex10

eehhh.... i think it's another byproduct of extended way-brain refusing to see what twi/pfal/vpw was all about regardless of proof that is here

As one - me - that has asked for forgiveness, more then once. It is certainly welcome and a reminder to to not do it again. Though I had and asked again and got it. Still it sticks in my head to live up to not doing or doing the wrong thing. Because mainly the person that gave the forgiveness also gives me a thing or two or more. For one that person that forgave you, that strength is seen and shared. There is a sense of worth for the forgiver and the forgiven. A faith from someone else in me strengthens my own faith in being able to live up to this that is seen between us. Seen by the forgiver first I think, then the forgiven........ Thought I'd add the other side of forgiveness a bit. From the one needing it.

interesting reply johniam rather strange and creepy what have you been reading lately? o and if you want close to my home don't bring any waybrain thinking or material and that's just close true Danny could have said something else. heck - get over it - laugh it off keep bringing up 'close to home' why you could start a website on how you were accused and treated here kind of a 'I was a GreaseSpot' deal, BUT I STILL GO THERE!

Poor guessing there johniam.

Thanks Kit, here's the wiki on it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanukkah Now where's that Abigail? :)

and just why is that different pov there? that's for him to figure out his pov is accusing others s'pose you DIDN'T NOTICE THAT!!!! huh georgestgeorge?

good possibility rascal wth, you cannot read the thoughts and intents of the heart just figure your own out and possibly do away with your golden calf for a while there is forgiveness no matter what you think a determination to seek the TRUTH is commendable in all things Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter. 3 The heaven for height, and the earth for depth, and the heart of kings is unsearchable.

the verse don't match your post wth, have you dealt with being treated like some here or just haven't recognized it yet

Thank you Tom, I hardly get much of a response when I post links to software. Any software that I post I have tried or the developer who made it has proven themselves to be consistently good at what they make and accessible to contact, should there be a problem. And by the feed back I read and the other programs by the same author I use. And for the most part all are free. I think I only posted one that costs money. Can't remember, getting older i reckon.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx-gce8exwc along those lines Cindy!

Alcoholism is a synthetic firing of endorphins with the side effect of killing the natural endorphin firing system. Killing brain cells. As well as other things that are effected, including the rest of the body. If it continues long enough it will kill you. It's not possession, it's an occurrence that happens, if it goes unmoderated or unchecked. The natural endorphin system will not harm anyone. But if alcohol is used consistently it stops this natural process, being replaced by the synthetic means of alcohol, addiction occurs, and can only be fired by alcohol. But if one can stop long enough with help this natural process will return.

freewill is an element that will melt with the fervent heat as love and hate, into and changing into the new and really, who's will are we really doing our will has been proven to not stand so freewill to me is a waste of words there is freedom to choose but who put the options there?