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When the eye witness is the victim, that's when you love to attack their credibility. Such is your 'love' of your own hate. The facts are that women were raped in twi by twi leaders. All cases filed were settled out of court. That does not prove innocent or guilty. Numerous first hand eyewitness testimony here at greasespot. Not only of rape, but coercion into many deeds that those who were coerced would not have done without the type and kind of pressure applied, which is also documented, in all circumstances where it was not the persons will to do what they were being told to do. You should educate yourself whitedove. You are not well informed, even when the info is readily available. You are deceived by deceiving. Not honest and seeking something else besides the truth. That much is apparent and certain. What's the matter TWI? You can't stop the courage of your victims. The words of the few that speak up scare you huh.... Do an internet search on your twi, and learn. And talk to those willing to right here. No, you are too afraid, cause you know they are right. Cowards.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Eyewitness+...GL_enUS235US235

I never said that - you did. There are convictions with first hand testimony only and that is the evidence. I could care less how you say you think. I don't buy it, you have demonstrated not being honest with the simplest of words and ideas. You certainly could not handle anything that would be important to another. You are off the case-Bye.

Nothing to contribute to the real world of truth and facts whitedove? No response to the reality of the way things actually work? According to you there can be no proof of anything. It's a circular thinking pattern, much like twi/pfal doctrine. A greased pig that don't want to get caught. Or just plain hardened heart. No need for emotions when it's a real event being told first hand. In fact, the emotion factor has been denied in telling these many events that did occur. Afterwards is when one really lets the emotions out, away from the crowd and with loved ones.

You know, whitedove, that in a court of law, it's people that convict a criminal. Not the law, but the investigation of the breaking of the law is by people. Whether it's the jury or the judge, the laws are interpreted and implemented by people. The jury is the law. And proof, that you think others need and not yourself. Is from people to people. Sorry, your supposed stand is no stand at all. Only an honest look into these matters, by people, will reveal the 'truth'. Of which no book can hold. Which also includes truths about anything, most especially ourselves and spiritual matters.

vp's ch - it still stinks in the bones of 2008 one day it will be gone forever-thankfully the evidence is clear to a clear thinking person go ahead and practice his garbage the stink remains, and is dealt with here i grow tired of ignorance and willful blindness rather then searching and finding answers rejoicing in making the questions harder is turning in on itself i too miss the ones who spoke of love and truth and life and death the true realities that have been left to fight an endless war whitedove, i don't believe your dogma it's meant as a distraction purposefully and it's working quite well you are not honest

The beauty of a piece of music is not in its technique but in the Soul of its creator; nor is it in the sound vibrations of the piece but in the silence of the Light from which the sound springs. -Walter Russell

Author unknown to me. I didn't write it. And with her permission, I removed any names and kept the heart of this post I believe. Furthermore it addresses many of the things discussed here in 'about the way'. So I don't think it should be 'doctrinal' but more of a practical seeing of new things.

No.

bs, i could tell you a story you wouldn't believe about what has happened here at GSC But I won't cause you won't believe it, doubt if any would but me and those involved. I've only met the person here and never face to face. But still the power of words can change lives. I proved it to myself and those involved were astonished a bit as well.

Yeah without being a part of a larger organization, these help facilities are defenseless against attacks by way of special interests that have the larger support. And once under attack the big charities will not help because of possibly affecting their own facilities. Turning to the city or other government agencies may help but unpredictable. Which reminds me of keeping things under the radar as best we can. And to change the subject, or as a side lite, such is the point of tongues. No one can hear them but those who can. But whatever, loosing it's fire, here imo. Not many interpreting.

Ok here is what we are really doing in the "underground' world of GSC. http://flightsimx.archive.amnesia.com.au/

Don't know how much longer these will be around but here they are! http://www.computeractive.co.uk/asoffice/index http://r.ashampoo.com/mailings/1/071207_en.htm Happy New Year!!!!

Kind of surprising to me to learn that a lot of what many churches were saying turns out to be closer to truth then anything the way taught in reality. I think lumping Christianity together in one group is a mistake because of the different teachings that different denominations and groups teach. Even within these are different things taught.

Interesting that it says 'quench' the fiery darts of the wicked. That' s different then stopping them. http://bible.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/Greek/...amp;version=kjv Ephesians 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

I'd rather talk of 'invisable' people then ignore them.

making sense to me is that good or bad :) happy new year!!! or somethin........

Ha, that's a good one Jeaniam. I should have one made for my sons. :biglaugh:

Welcome Wing!! Glad you didn't wait till next year to post! :) Interesting insight into the site and sites. lol.... 2008 coming up here shortly. New Years eve at the spot....

There are no girlfriends behind me. What kind of bs accusation is that? Go bother someone else. If you think what I said is aggressive then you are just not very bright. Bye.

It's very clear that neither pond nor Bumpy have taken any time to get to know who they are talking to.

And you are offering something new Bumpy? I don't think you are reading all of what is said to say it's the same old stuff. Everytime something is repeated there is more to learn because the speaker has learned more. This can be seen in the posts. Plus the many subjects covered in other topics are here. Maybe you would want to check them out.

I never called myself a Christian Bumpy. And I think it was needed to be said, so I did. bs is a good word. Just like your guessing about my life in your post. And what I will be doing and what friends I have. bs

bs pond, you are an asset to abusers, an enabler whether you see it or not i hope you will if you don't explaining the force used and coercion would be redundant it's been said and explained before not only here but plenty of abuse sites