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sheesh....get a grip I know these people, including Dot. Quit labeling them bipolar, you don't know what you are speaking of. Even the experts miss diagnose. Here these folks are helping you. Though it may sound harsh, it isn't. They are just trying to break through to YOU. Not only to face what occured but to get healed. You'll never forget, but you will beat twi/vpw. If you want to.

Sorry Geisha, I'm more interested in the spirit speaking now. The spirit alone, not men or women are able to show me what it means. Certainly there is a place for learning history. But that's all it is. Though I know lots of history, that is not what I rely on. In any form or fashion. Now is more what I'm interested in. And those that speak of now. And bringing any past to now is fine. But what was written then will be shown to me now as the spirit wills. Not me. Though I may have knowledge of history, it is overwritten by the spirit. Not rewritten. But alive and living and present. That's all I have.

Everyone is not the same lucy. You still stayed too. A lot did, even after '88 knowing a lot. Their motives were different I suppose. Perhaps some the same. Why do you not inquire with patience and understanding? Your situation could have been met with something besides what you did also. Same as the others. They had reasons, just like you. Though being 'in' is a different look then not.

Freedom of speech and freedom of the press. When the event actually occurred, then that is telling the truth. Whether anyone thinks it's opinion or not does not matter to the one telling what happened. Not to me either. What right does anyone have to stop them. None concerning what is being posted on this forum. twi is far worst then most of these type of groups in that they are handed down from generation to generation. The terms may change but the intent has not. And truth is not determined by a court of the law of the land.

I'd rename this thread- Boot the ones who attack the most vulnerable for the only purpose of inflicting hurt and pain, really hurt. Probably wouldn't fit on the header though...:).

Hopefully this bs won't go much further exc. That's why I posted anyway. This has been a subtle way to destroy lives...again. Right here where so many got help. And I think it should stop. WD has no right to speak of any victims the way he has. It's just not right.

Yeah, it's their right to moderate this forum. But you read it didn't you. And they did. That contributed. You have managed to avoid moderation with your plan. But that is all you have avoided.

Nope not wound up. That's another lie. And yes I am doing as seen fit. Your opinion??!!! aaww that's rich!!!.......

And he dumps another load....

No hating prevailing here, People get healed by releasing what they have been through. Yes, WD, We see the hatred that stands out here.

People do think, yes, in spite of people like you. I don't care what a proven liar thinks.

The documentation is in the truth of those that were there. Answer the question. You avoid them so obviously.

Because of your lies WD. This site is DOWN. No one is opening up to talk about what really happened. Why don't you sit in a corner, and have a big bowl of shutup.

How many lies can you tell on this forum WD? If I wanted I could document everyone. You say you don't do such and such. But you did and do. That is a liar.

Personal attack removed

what a waste it's just a distraction being pulled here i hope you get paid what your worth wd

You can hide behind facts. But you can't hide behind the truth.

Ha, Abigail! That may be how we sound, but not what we try to say. I'm as harsh as any, but if some can look past that and see what I'm trying to communicate, that may help. I feel like we are similar in that way of speaking.

No, Sunesis, I do not want Geisha to quit posting. And, no, not narrow minded, opinionated without all the info. And my "smackdown" was one that I would not have posted if I wasn't involved in what she is saying. And encouraging more from her. Which happened. And quite honestly Danny is holding a lot back out of love. That Geisha has never heard of. But it don't matter cause we will all know soon. Every one in their own time. As for me, I do not have any ill feelings toward anyone. I've looked my own demons in the eye and spit in them. So there is nothing that CAN offend me from someone else.

It's actually possible to see through someone's eyes. By being shown, not by your own abilities. And not just sight but feelings as well as most of it. It takes some courage though, once the door opens. And although it opens, one must proceed to see.

I never thought that of you. And for the last time, as much as you may want me to be. I am not offended. Please stop accusing me of it.

See, you got me wrong too. No one is left out of eternal life. And I don't go for eternal torment thinking either. So use whatever words you choose to poke at me or anyone. And saying I'm offended is quite foolish. Think what you want, it's not my problem. pfft..give me a friggin break that's out of anyone's hands as if any person is in charge of this

Actually I think Geisha left everyone out while trying to put everyone in their own little place in her mind. But, Hey, I don't know anything.

But that's their only defense of vp. Prove it. Why they defend him is because of his teachings imo. But his teachings promote what he did to others wrong. That is the point of his teachings, the way he twisted what he stole. I don't need any proof from these victims of vp. It's already in his class, the proof. And most of all MY judgement of the one telling what happened. For those who attack these victims. Do they enjoy hurting people? Vp did. What is their motive for defending vp and pfal. They won't answer that, they probably don't even know. That's how powerful the grip of pfal is on them. And deliberately turning blind to the truth. But not for long, there won't be any place to hide.

So yeah there was help for a moment for some. Are they going to sit on that moment and make it their God forever? Are they going to be able to see past that moment? Pfal was help for some for a bit of time. Yeah, got it. Me too. It was only temporary though. And we saw what we were not looking for. Like the CURSE of THE LAW. Needed for a time. But then it's time to move on. Though THE LAW was better then pfal.