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Whether it be Adam or Moses or Jesus or others, it matters not the time in which they lived. Time is living and breathing Now, including past present and future. All of it. There is nothing done away with as it may seem in the scriptures as some sort of history lesson. Everything that the scriptures record is here, now in play, in us, at any time living.

like a picture can paint thoughts thoughts, words can paint pictures... rather then the analytical type of destruction in heart and vision, we are cut loose from words by words into the very heart of voices of angels

What do you mean by vision? I think it really happened, therefore visible to the ones that could see.

I have no intention of debating whether there are 9 or 90 manifestations. But to discover the workings of the spirit as it allows me to see. Just thought I'd say that. Cause it's not important to me. Only as a tool to perhaps let go of it. If we were to count the fruit of the spirit, it would mean nothing as well. Sure enough another will blossom...

Where would the Mount of Transfiguration event fit the 9.

I agree, though not misused but misinterpreted. Not allowing patience and temperance to guide. Even in misinterpreting there is a will present. Cause those knots will be untangled. --- Nice source for the Enneagram sirg. One can see these in themselves first.

I think the real healing takes place in the mind, soul and spirit. Physical healing is temporary, we will all die, the ultimate healing. Not to condone killing yourself, but a factor that will not go away. It's a miracle to see death as life, and life as death. To be able to face life with clear vision as well as death. We would need to be shown. To become dead while we live to see life's death. What it is and means and what happens can only be shown to us. In that is peace, healing and a miracle. Removing the fear and anxiety that causes many physical symptoms. In the spirit, it is seen and the body is changed, healed, for now, temporary. A token, a glimpse of our life in Christ. But for now we can't stay there, soon enough we will.

Consume is not bad neither is being gutted. Figurative for the work of God. Perhaps you missed that, but it is descriptive enough, for now. There is a time for everything. And these experiences will happen, no doubt. Is there bad or wrong associated with these terms? Sure. What about the good that you pointed out in your recent verses. Just what is involved in spirit? Something you handle in your own hands? By your own doing?

I don't know where you get these ideas about me towards you. Is it because you do not understand my sayings, that you think it's an attack of a sort. Far from the truth of the matter. But if the flaming sword is handled it will consume the holder with it's flame. Till you let go.

Mean, would not be the word, Gen-2. A warning, be careful what you wish for. Cause the manifestation of spirit is not to be taken lightly. It will take you to places you have not been and never intended or thought of. To grasp the Double edged sword of flame and gut yourself with it. The man's will? Not hardly. My will can take me where it wills. The spirit will do the same. To the depths of hell inside yourself, to heights of heavens unseen. Soon to see both are in the spirit to see the unseen. Few are ready to become dead to themselves to see life.

Just cause 9 are listed doesn't mean they are numbered. Nor do they act independently or not act for that matter... The manifestation is singular though plural and certainly can not be numbered. I mean what about all the other spiritual things manifested. Are we to classify them, I hope not.....

Who is in charge-in the spirit? Is that the question? Who is Lord, who is God? As the man wills, wills what, a miracle? It's a mutual joining, not some power trip. Removing the labels and layers of self centered thinking is a start.

Had twi even come close to what tongues is? Doubt it. If they had, it and the rest is apparent and, as a whole, cannot be contained in explanations. But learning and being taught is not popular. The old 'do it myself' mindset of figuring things out. Which to a degree is correct in determination and willingness. To do whatever it takes from the inside out, not the other way around....

Yes iTunes would be a good choice. I've been seeing Foobar come up a lot one this subject as well. It can burn gap-less wav files, they say..... http://www.foobar2000.org/ foobar investigated and dissected - http://www.donationcoder.com/Forums/bb/index.php?topic=5430.0 Problem I've had when trying gap-less is it ain't easy. Sometimes the next song will start in the middle of one or a long pause remains. But I'm not that much into gap-less burning. And I have not tried itunes for that purpose, yet. Found this for iTunes. Should work with Windows as well since it's dealing with a program, not the OS. http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20041230224327722

no wings, still attached

Nero does this best, I hear, though it still fails to be flawless. Maybe one of these will help. You can cut the silence at the end and beginning of a piece of music, then burn the tracks as data or mp3's but try it without the 'make music cd/dvd' option. Just burn it as is once you have them all edited and ready to burn. http://mpesch3.de1.cc/mp3dc.html http://maniactools.com/soft/mp3-splitter-joiner/index.shtml Although you didn't say they are mp3's, I'm guessing. If other, specify, I also hear wma is easier to work with for this type of operation.

Most everything about windows live.... http://messengergeek.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E3785B1281BBDA1!3332.entry?wa=wsignin1.0&sa=550930907 Zap Messenger will remove live messenger. -Or in Control Panel all the live programs are in 'Windows Live Essentials'. Clicking uninstall will give you the options of what live programs you may want to uninstall. Keeping the rest.

the beauty of zero whether in it or not it can not be be defined, articulated or explained it can be experienced not by intelligence or lack of those who have can know those who have by words unsaid, past language into recognizing thoughts it won't be cornered nor had by decision of one's self it's own boundless will retained and not to be underestimated the power of zero will overwhelm and can be misinterpreted easily by man, and selfishness but not by spirit, for it unselfishly reveals, in it's time i see no need for sirg to apologize for that which is revealed to him nor for anyone else though i will disagree with many, even sirg it matters not, cause our paths cross often and the overall picture is not disturbed..... the mind is troubled seeking...fearing....death and dieing the heart of zero visited, and soon to be home in

Seems there is more to this /zero Cult then at first suspected. Dww, you can't make zero anything but zero. And it will keep it's own intent. Sirguessalot, thanks for your very enlightening inspiration. Zeroed in on it perfectly abstract , as it should be. With solid history of the practice of zero.

If the bible is thought of as an autobiography of the soul, then things change perspective inherently.

not only blinded from but blinded by it....

I don't believe mankind has fallen. That would be God setting up man to fall. Sounds like dictatorship to me. Fallen asleep, I'd say.

That's what makes it special. Something that isn't there but most definitely in play. Without 0 there is no 10 or 1000's, numerically. Another thing is, zero includes everyone. The other numbers divide, which can be good or bad. Depends on their use, or our use of them. Like them and us-2-division. Or one, one what? Whereas zero is not absent but present, invisible.

...a fine and wonderful refuge of the divine spirit – almost an amphibian between being and non-being. — Gottfried Leibniz

Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul. If this is correct then blood is not really the point but the life that's in it. The word became that life of the flesh, that is in the blood. So there is something that pertains to flesh having life. Life in the blood, doesn't say that blood is life. Or something.....maybe that doesn't say it well....