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I agree.

I think he means all are hypocrites, therefore all are Christians, no matter what religion or no religion involved in. And the thing is, the man already had eternal life. Jesus was talking about 'perfect' now. And what do we actually have to sell or give. Who is the poor? "follow me" would help that be seen.

maybe cause of the sales pitch or elitism or tithe as if we didn't know about ekklesia here's another fine group that separates itself from others using that Greek word just think how great it would be to have that name tag! http://wnaesite.ning.com/

Good examples of people dividing people. Your points a and b have two choices in a way. I think the depiction of both Jews and Gentiles, having certain views, is not an all included type deal. In other words a Gentile could look for signs and a Jew for wisdom. More of where, for the most part of the people spoken of were at, at the time. "I can easily see them making distinctions AMONG THEMSELVES as to who" -insert whatever brand here. Excellent observation of people in general.

For instance, if I lost ya... without seeing the fear motivation we saw in twi we would not recognize real love with no strings attached some here remember the 'errors in pfal' thread from that we saw new perspectives and ideas wisdom is to seeing more then truth but to search out the matter, as it says...

and funny too how lies get to truth and lack of faith makes faith stand out in ourselves and seeing it all over the place

Faith and Truth are just words till in your own life they smack you upside the head in a good way the meanings will show themselves cause we can't figure them out mean while the struggle to find them in a book fails but when they are found in our selves the books become new with new life as does everything perspective changes again-that's seeing seeing more changes more perspectives in all things in a continuing faith to faith or truth to truth

the spirit knows.....

the pure skeptic philosophy and it's out right rejection of absolutes documented as an absolute it seems http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrho_of_Elis kind of funny.... absolutes are not stationary, skeptically speaking of course :)

I usually think a bit more in such constraints. Not that thinking isn't happening already..... Whenever there seems to be only 2 choices look for a third. It's always there, perhaps more.

War is not good.... I salute those who have had to fight them and are and will again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx7dFp0WhN4

Thanks WordWolf, well said. Usually I will skip a post that is twice as long as my screen. Although I will read those from some members here. These super large paragraphs make eyes glaze over though.

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lol....i figured it would melt down to this sort

Nice post, and glad someone has mentioned the book of Jasher. There are many other 'books of' as may well know.

Funny thing is, hell and heaven look the same. Thanks Roy, yes resurrections are always happening.

And 1 Thessalonians 4 is literal as opposed to figurative? Are these our only choices? No.

Where did this idea of some end of the world for everyone rapture, tribulation, some burn in hell forever, annihilation of people, and some don't, for everyone at the same time come from anyway? I don't buy it.

Ancient and Present, many are still puzzled. So it has to be simple right? I believe so. A simple puzzle or riddle even. See anything appear? Not by your work but by it being shown to you. By people? No, tried that. Though some people's words stir entirely new thoughts.

As I recall it was a king the people wanted which god didn't. And they got King Saul. as far as the commandments and why they were instituted, the way has no idea but that isn't your question....

What is 'my worship'?

not so much death as the end of this life Gen-2, thoughts die as new ones spring forth keeping the good of the old if there was any I too have seen death, and will again. This is why the enemy is faced in each of us. Because of love, we can, we will. and we learn what it is by seeing it happen in our hearts in our minds in nature in the heavens

it's not gloom and doom either as may be supposed like there is light in darkness there is life in death as well