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i would hope that to be a yes but unfortunately this is not the case should? - yes does it happen? no even for untimely or quick deaths the reverence and honor is lost in ignorance the 'rites of passage' knowledge is obscured i'm at a loss for words cause those are our rites even now in this life many 'passages' are not seen seen as emotion, it's not in fact emotion is mistaken for these rites I believe

good puns sirg can answer better then me I think speaking of dieing and hospice hospice is more then about taking care of the dieing but anyway, I am amused that some say they will never change or that some would say that about someone else cause change is coming to each person it can not be stopped, if not while alive certainly after death the life will change in a good way, the journey is not abandoned when we die but continues....

maybe when one is weak strength is recognized from where it comes from

well, gotta know what infirmities are first and be able to see them in another? most don't know what their own are Paul took pleasure in his own and 'bear' those of the weak and still says when I am weak, then am I strong apparently God said I do think there are more assumptions of meanings then understanding what is being said what is it really talking about here? s.i.t. Twi style, I don't buy it for a second the Spirit helping our infirmities? doesn't say relief from, right then there the Spirit again making intercession for us happening without it being seen, maybe, but maybe not then it goes beyond the limits of language past uttering into something else

thanks for looking at a few ramblings Kit so much more as you know for Christ is all in all where there is neither male nor female Jew or Gentile...as the scriptures declare the masculine will always dominate can it allow the feminine Spirit of God to unfold with temperance held in the man's hand we have the nature of God inside sons daughters ... both intertwined can the power of the Spirit be let loose in it's time, in it's time Jesus said he was a son of God, of the nature of God he didn't corner the market on it.....

if AA is considered to be like TWI, it is a misconception yes there are some who will swear that AA is the only answer to the problem at hand as TWI people have claimed to be "THE WAY" the only way the difference is, in my experience, AA will give and not take while some may be 'hooked' on AA, it's easy to walk away and you are always welcome, drunk or sober yes the basket is passed, $1 is the normal donation and it is not required or preached about even some that have been with AA a long time will think it's the only way out of alcohol abuse while other's know the origins of the principals involved and how freely they have given and can point out the history beyond the AA book

And you know how or when this happens? Or even exclude some from something you know nothing about? Like you are in charge of doing it yourself for yourself? Some formula pulled out of a book?

Good point Linda, but twi also taught that some didn't have Christ. Which is a guess at best and not true imo.

Thanks Kit.

buffet - 'polish off'? more like polish up I think if I polish off my car it shines and is polished up...lol... a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan flesh/spirit.....always fun or interesting...to face together

Perhaps being "weak" is not a concept we have grasped yet. Or let happen. who of us have seen the and if so surely God is seen as well would it be good or bad to be exalted above measure? Is it you or God's strength to be seen? Quite clearly it is God's strength made perfect. What did Paul glory in? How could it be people? To glory in people that the power of Christ may rest upon him? I believe the word 'infirmities' is not understood, till seen. Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities Romans 15:1 We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves. Why? Can you be weak and strong at the same time-looks like it to me. 1 God, 1 Spirit, 1 Body. 'it' works. Fear of weakness? Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong. Perhaps we should turn our former understanding around and see what is being spoken of. And see the love and power of Christ that can rest upon us. Unless you stop it by trying to dominate it (masculine) yourself. And think it's your Glory. Instead of the other way around. Letting it, the Glory rest on you. The strong MAN must be bound. So Christ can work it's work. The strong man will will try to pound Christ in. When it is already there.

Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. Man will never see God, but the woman the feminine will see. Who is Satan and the messenger? Dates forward to the beginning.

2 Corinthians 12 5Of such an one will I glory: yet of myself I will not glory, but in mine infirmities. 6For though I would desire to glory, I shall not be a fool; for I will say the truth: but now I forbear, lest any man should think of me above that which he seeth me to be, or that he heareth of me. 7And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me,lest I should be exalted above measure. 8For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me. 9And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong. Verse 10 does not say people. These things cover a lot of ground, people perhaps, but much deeper then that. I'd look up what made him weak and strong. Plain as the nose on your face. Reading what is written, it is not people. But, weakness and his own 'infirmities'.

By typing words. I will not get into 'what it is' here.

People. O yeah them people we learned to hate. This piece of garbage teaching promotes hatred of people. And we wondered why(for most)we became so intoxicated. Even after leaving the way this subtle crash course, separated us from others. Still there was fear of people, anxiety, stress, distrust, and the hate was still there, although it may have turned to just disliking others. Kind of dawned on me the other day, the purpose of this teaching. And it's terrible results. The thorn in the flesh is not people. But I don't want to really get into that teaching. I just know what it's not.

hm, that's like how you avoid my direct questions to you, teachmevp you don't respond and hide behind length of posts and the net

http://www.netlingo.com/acronyms.php Not sure about kids but this is a long list!

you could try making it a pdf. http://www.dopdf.com/forum/ how to-easy

Everyone OK? Been a hell of a month. http://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=26579.msg247152#new

I'm all of these- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religions_of_the_world So I guess I should check all in the poll. Christ by any other name is still Christ or whatever name preferred. Or Satan still magnifies Christ, they are the same in the eye.

I've heard there is another Advanced Class Special for Easter weekend. Again they are continuing the oppressive tactics.

I believe that everything you see is a reflection of what you are inside, looking at the unseen by way of what is seen, not parallel, but left is right and right is left, neither being wrong. Not that what we see isn't real, but also, who we are is even more then seen. As there are things we haven't seen, even so there those same things in us. The deity is closer then we may think. I've come to the point of not looking at outside sources alone, to define anything, even more-so, both that is in us, and with us, are intertwined, indefinitely and unlimited.

Maybe you should look at them, johniam. Or have someone not with the way see them. Most see the insults and putting others down, as well as an attitude of 'I'm right and you are wrong'. We were in TWI, so we know, cause we did it too. Your comments are not on topic as well. Leading to a whole different venue.

getting results? is that an insult? results happen, how we perceive, and practice them, is more the story

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