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I asked a couple of rhetorical questions, that's all. Doesn't matter anyway. I don't do surveys. If an answer comes out in a post, that is okay, but I could change my mind.

Wow.....and you think you are the one to say anything about anything

Without some kind of threat of some kind of hell, most doctrines will fall apart. The sign on a church billboard down the road from my house says that "Jesus is coming back". Just another threat in my opinion. Based on the destructive non-loving doctrines that teach that Jesus Christ is not here and present, but will come back at some future time. Love, yeah love is one of those concepts that some think that people need to be taught and defined. I don't think so. And what is it to love God? Please don't try to answer that for me or tell me what and how to get it done. Is it love for me to share my experiences with the myths of hell? Is it love to show where I got the hell from, how these "love god" bible people promote destructive teachings and practices? Yes Jesus said a lot of things about love in the bible, so does Proverbs and Genesis and Deuteronomy. As well as the many souls I encounter daily.

Scripture is a bottomless pit of hell by itself. The further it's taken the worse it gets. Time after time this has proven to be true. I've proven it to myself after more than 20 years of practicing the bible. As well as others here who have done the same. Clear thinking was replaced by words in a book. We took what we called spirit and demanded it to do our will and called it walking by the spirit. The spirit, Christ, is not a tool to be used, never will be.

no one here is without the spirit to understand, but I'm sure that grammar school battles don't contribute tossing around ideas is encouraging though

Some things are not found in the scriptures till they are found in life. Spiritual things I suppose. There are a lot of "myths" about many subjects, which can add to knowledge about the subjects. I don't know how to change a topic name, I think it can't be done after the first few posts.

The fire of hell, and the fire of love, same fire I think. I do applaud your effort Mark. It could be the myths, plural, of hell.

that's a good one Sudo, it's always "look how great this is" then comes the enslaving fear narcissistic based doctrines and some kind of "future" event that is supposed to scare us into doing things

end times or time ending happens to everyone the Revelation of Jesus Christ If it's Christ in you, then where is he going to come from? Not seeing Jesus Christ does not mean he left. Vanishing or disappearing is not the same as leaving. Or maybe Jesus and God are "somewhere" playing cards waiting to blow up the world to save a few. If you can see from a different viewpoint, and you can, it might look a little different with the same elements. Instead of something happening externally, maybe internally is where it begins and ends, ends and begins.

There are a few viewpoints that bounce around in my head about end times. I've considered many viewpoints over the years without a definite decision on one or the other, without excluding any totally. Looking at life itself and lives and my life has to be considered as well I think. And then all this combines in me for some sort of beliefs. edit? lines are double spaced for some reason, anyone know how I can fix that?

without anything to obsess about, there is a strange feeling like nervousness or like butterflies in the stomach a seriously nothing to do and accomplish type thing I guess same feeling after quitting the way or drinking or buying and selling on ebay some kind of drive to do something, to accomplish something not just bumping this thread but trying to complete the thing, finish the thought probably a never ending thing, being careful and attempting to direct obsessed to more worthy

Nice post T-Bone, I can relate to it. I think we have a drive to find out a matter. Then once found, or had enough of it, we move on to a new thing.

sometimes I think Solomon's 700 wives were different veins of wisdom he obsessed over

lol...

6 pocket knives in 1 month. Still normal. And now near to 20. With some sets. I have stayed under a hundred for each though. Not easy. I do have my eye on some over a hundred. The human condition. It's not looked at from aliens, just us.

Thinking about myself, I can see that I have been obsessed with quite a few things in my life. Younger, a boy, I would read every book written by one author. Coin collecting, and other shiny things. Then fishing, then hunting. Yeah...fishing... Thinking about all the gear I bought and never used. I think those fishing lures baited me..lol. I mean look how cool they look! And hey! Look at this rod and reel! Then the way. If you want to be obsessed, this is a paradise. From 2 character words to obsess over, to books and thoughts and feelings. About feelings, there was the drugs and alcohol I was obsessed with. Drugs before the way and alcohol after. Chasing a feeling it seems like. But not unlike many other obsessions. Lately I have been into pocket knives. I bought 2 in one order. Within a month I had 6 pocket knives to admire! Then flashlights. Wow! The new LEDs are something to behold! More powerful than any of the old types I had. Then you have to get the brightest and best ya'know. Best thrower (spot light), and best flood. Best for overall, or modes or looks, or size......I think I have maybe 15 flashlights. Could never use them all in a few lifetimes. Not saying that being obsessed is wrong, just that I noticed it in me. I suppose being obsessed is okay if it does not hurt yourself or others. And I'm not sure if "obsessed" is the right word to describe...maybe focused or focused to a fault! Anyone that is more than good at a job or sport or career or hobby is focused or obsessed to a definite degree. Some things come naturally in the various daily duties I suppose. From what I hear of military folks like pilots and SEALs and others. They are obsessed or totally focused on the task. Still I do not think it to be wrong in itself to be so focused. Just that I might want to be careful what I do get obsessed with. Murders are from being obsessed too, from what I read and see. Many crimes I think. Kind of taken back a bit to see the different things I've been into. Normal. Maybe OCD, not sure about the compulsive part. I'll try to be more obsessed careful and watch what I'm obsessed with. Hey you want to buy one of my pocket knives or flashlights? I have too many! Hm, on second thought, I'll just let you look at them.....lol...

it's sort of like the word - honesty i don't know what that word will be or mean tomorrow to me i can't see what it will mean to me in any given situation or day

sanctification is living and breathing and growing, with high and low tides and many in betweens as is reconciliation and other such words with life If I could define it, then it would be a dead word my 2 cents worth i recall a warning about getting caught by the dead letter

'and to die is gain' saying the same thing ... really a perpetual continuing or state of living and dieing can't really choose either, needing both 'For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God'

Mostly Baha'i faith, but very useful. Books are in plain text files. Online version http://bahairesearch.com/ Desktop version http://bahairesearch.com/WinApp/Pages/Download.aspx

as it should be till you are ganged up on then your individual status is the minority right or wrong, does not matter then unless you either shut up, or take it to a next level if there is another level-either in you or someone else

I have found that hardly anyone wants to know the truth of the situation. They run from it, avoid it and tell you to stop talking about it. While my situation is horizontal, (with a bit of vertical) here is some tips about vertical. http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Tell-Tale-Signs-of-a-Hostile-Workplace&id=4057797

What an excellent source waysider! Thanks. I do have to caution myself about thinking on this stuff too much. Cause it will affect me in a bad way. I try to think of good things and people and that tends to be what is up front in my manner. Not that I have not done some of these things in all these sources. I'm guessing most everyone has done 1, 2 or a few. Doing a dozen or more would be a big problem. The question is, will we stop and turn it around in our own life. Cause I know the only mind I can change is my own.

Here's one that twi thought that they knew and accused each other of doing. And while, in their accusing they were doing it to a degree that I doubt many have seen outside of twi or other like abusive sub-cultures. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection Projection. O yeah! If it could be graded, they have the highest score. This is a terrible and deadly attack to use on people.