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Yeah, that's putting it nicely. Drop the button in, pull the button out. This might have worked for him the first couple of times, but after that it was routine walking in darkness.

Good summation there Mike. I take issue with each one. I disagree with a lot of it

Well....there's the old "in fellowship/out of fellowship" doctrine.... 1 John is not lining up with that old doctrine.

Blaming everyone here for your deal.

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A good way to put it Twinky. I am a firm believer in life after death, immediately, no sleeping, no line, no waiting. Resurrection of the just and unjust, each in their own time. No need to rush it or worry about it, a whole bunch of people have done it. It's such a reality that I can live life without any worry about it. What will stand up in the fire of God? I will soon find out.

Ok, how many spirits is that? And each person has this going on?

For the points, A and B, administrations and rapture. There are two main covenants clearly in the scripture, the old and the new. The revelation of Jesus Christ is something a lot more personal than some kind of world event.

The main catalyst for fundamentalism would be the invention of the printing press I would think. A good way to learn what the scriptures say. It's what the scriptures don't say or interpreted as, is what many have tried to fill in the perceived blanks, causing many divisions or doctrines. A strictly black and white doctrine can be limiting.

The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

What's wrong with hate? Plenty of places in scripture about God hating. If you don't understand hate, not likely to understand love either.

I think most people don't sin. In PFAL, VPW said most people sin before breakfast. That should have been a big red flag for me. Trying to convince me that I was sinning all the time, I guess. A bunch of self-righteous brow-beating.

Dear Mike, I am somewhat entertained by your attempts to transform these people into your idea of how they should be thinking about you and your endless babblings, and it's pretty disgusting to see your desire for worship, first for you to worship you and then for others to worship you. Your relentless pursuit of the ghost of VPW will end and be cast down to the ground. Neither you or anyone else is made in the image of VPW or PFAL. We, each one of us, is made in the image of God, not man, and until you respect this you will not find any true answers, even when they are in plain sight. Love you

I would have to say - Do Not Do this Essay! This is a corrupt organization that will use your own words against you to trap, intimidate, and coerce you into following their lead. It's just one more thing for them to sink their hooks in to you.

It's one thing to get out of the way, and that's not easy, and another thing to get the way out of ourselves, a lot harder, I believe. As you know well, BecomingMe. It took me quite a few years of attacking this way thing in my head, before I think it was finally done. Looking at it now and from the past, I was battling myself, not someone else or some kind of god or devil. A lot of people helped, whether they know it or not. Mostly people from Greasespot, but others as well.

I don't believe Christ is absent or missing.

If Christ is not absent, then why is there a "return"? Or "coming of the Lord". It must be talking about something other than what we were taught.

Reminds me of Scrooge who didn't realize he had so much to give until he saw his own tombstone. Most people won't see much until they die, which is not a bad thing, just happens like that. Old Scrooge died that day, and things changed inside of him.

Maybe it's time to grow up and out of using the imagination to point at extraneous material gain, blaming everyone else, and point that imagination at yourself and soon to learn that peace, prosperity, joy, love, hope, faith is there for you when the reality of what has been done in you begins to surface.

I've never liked having only two choices on anything. There is more to God, the Holy Spirit and Jesus the Christ than a bunch of doctrinal debates, more than anything anyone could actually put into words. "I and my father are one", it doesn't say in purpose at all. Becoming one, as stated in Genesis, was not in purpose either. Who has the courage to face themselves with no one else to argue with?

The administration teaching is not exclusive to twi, but yeah, set those aside for a moment and consider the scriptures. Without a timeframe consider life as a whole.

Part of a problem deal about scripture and what is taught, is that the thinking is chronological, things happening in some kind of order that is studied. If any timetable is removed, a new light can be found in understanding. Is the bible the word of God? I think of it as scripture, and that is not the only source to find scripture. The word of God to any person does not need a bible or book as a go between, an advocate or like anything between you and God. Luther made a point long ago when studying the scriptures that there is nothing between God and men concerning righteousness.

The trinity has just as much truth in it as the opposition to it.

as if the devil was something set apart from Jesus at that time, not so me thinks having this power Jesus was "tempted", seeing what he could do, decided