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So..... doesn't mean others have not just because you haven't

ok, here we go JC has to come back a second time because somehow, he didn't get it all done the first time. This contradicts everything in Paul's writings and the others, John, Peter, James, the gospels...etc.... So we are not complete? Righteous now? Even the basics of pfal contradict itself if you hold to some kind of second coming.

I can't seem to follow any of this from you mark who said anything about "we have already had this with me"? ??

I think heaven and hell are the same thing, same place eternal torment? I don't think so 11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire. this does not say anything about this happening to everyone at the same time

How could you tell the difference?

Part of the reason for starting this thread was to be able to provide a different view of the subject. Since the thinking of the way has dominated the thought pattern. Even a search of the title brings up vpws book, and not much on the different answer.

as a man thinks in his heart there mike

lol, yeah none of the bible was written to me Scripture is God breathed but not written to me, although I hear it so clearly sometimes.....when the spirit of god shows me things....

that's not true

hm psalms 103 Bless the Lord, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name. 2 Bless the Lord, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits: 3 Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases; 4 Who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with lovingkindness and tender mercies; 5 Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle's. You won't get that from your books.

mike: I fight it off the best I can, but find myself fighting it off over and over. what is "it"

Not "what am I [Twinky] fighting?" but "what is Mike fighting?" as it's a quote from something he wrote. Yes I know So what are you in a fight for Mike?

What are you fighting?

this was part of the trappings and compelling push to believe everything you were taught without questioning any of it

"if that man or woman is speaking god's word then you have to be strong in what they say" paraphrased but pretty close to what was in pfal

Yes, it was taught in pfal.

We were taught that we should be strong in what someone is saying that the "rightly divided" bible says. If they are teaching "God's Word" then we are to be strong in what they say. I don't believe this is true at all about being strong in the Lord. More like nearly the opposite, be strong in the spirit of your mind, the scriptures say. I think this is the key, you, your spirit, God is big enough to work with you. Sure, we can listen and hear what others say, but it should always be you, your spirit with the say on anything for you. And then you don't go trying to force feed it to someone else. Let them work with their own spirit. Does this make sense to anybody? I may not have said it well.

name one of the many others, I'll be glad to start a topic on it

My wife and I each got a card in the mail. That must be joking, I mean seriously? We have come so far ahead of that twi teaching they would not grasp any kind of reality that is truth. Not that any of them might want to actually learn anything from god. They are stuck in a narrow analytical world of a few books.

I have the spirit of many loves ones in my heart. I call on them a lot sometimes.

In all that learning did you ever get born again? Doubt it. I'm not seeing any evidence of that happening in your life Mike. When and if it does happen you will know it

A big failure in comprehension of the actual forgiveness given by God and paid for by Jesus Christ. To even get to this point takes intervention by the holy spirit. To really experience it this will change a person, from the heart. And affect every action afterwards.

did you burn one yet? Joint.webp

Is this how you live Mike? Why are you so hungry for followers that the closest you get to any following is posting non-sense like you do?

Honestly, I think Mike needs to smoke some weed. See a doctor or something.