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heres heavens-too many 'heaven' to post KJV: Mt 3:16 16And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: KJV: Mt 24:29 29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: KJV: Mk 1:10 10And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: KJV: Lk 12:33 33Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth. KJV: Ac 2:34 34For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, KJV: Ac 7:56 56And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. KJV: 2 Co 5:1 Chapter 5 1For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. KJV: Eph 4:10 10He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) KJV: Heb 1:10 10And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: KJV: Heb 4:14 14Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. KJV: Heb 7:26 26For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; KJV: Heb 8:1 Chapter 8 1Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; KJV: Heb 9:23 23It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. KJV: 2 Pe 3:5 5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: KJV: 2 Pe 3:7 7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. KJV: 2 Pe 3:10 10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. KJV: 2 Pe 3:12 12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? KJV: 2 Pe 3:13 13Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. KJV: Re 12:12 12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

anyone care to think about this? yeah i know more bible sh!t f*** it felt the same way for a while twi is another life far from me now i can look at the bible without their influence anymore

why one earth and one new earth? why heavens then new heavens whats the diff between heaven and heavens? Peter says there will be a new heavenS and earth yet heaven is exclusively used elsewhere 19 times in the kjv new testament including the gospels heaven is used over 200 heavens used not saying that there is over 200 heavens though but seems to me heaven has a special meaning Deut 10:13To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good? 14Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD’S thy God, the earth also, with all that therein is. certainly a distinction here

Hi Roy! It seems to me that answers are out there in abudance. I think the key is to question the answers and soon would be far removed fron the original answer. Therefore building what others have already done, for we are entered into their works and left with it in our hands. And as a bonus it will be an exciting adventure and travel through many a mystery that has been hid, still hid from ages....and generations

amen oaks.... it's a lie

being created in the image eliminates any barriers except the ones we place on ourselves or others convince us that there some other 'doctrine' limiting the capabilities of man and God moving in the same rythym

something so simple just has to be complicated by people who wish to control God's spirit which is in every person no wonder so many confuse themselves and not get back to simple thinking and doing the easy simple things like love and giving then these wills are one, and they are most of the time with most people

I wonder if these wills 'God's and man's' are anything like being led by the spirit. Letting go of our will to do his will. No matter how the info gets to us. Seems that there had to be a definite one way of receiving this will of God. I don't think so.

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bummer... seems there shouyld be an easier way

that is if you know when it got the trojan restore to a time earlier then the infection more info- http://www.google.com/search?q=td.exe&...amp;rlz=1I7GGLJ http://www.google.com/search?q=tdd.exe&amp...amp;rlz=1I7GGLJ

have you tryed 'system restore'?

Yeah...lol...no money required Abigail. In fact it has come as quite a surprise to me. Not expecting but seeing more then I thought possible. Also seeing how right many have been in ear shot throughout my life. Also how against what I learned vpw was, and why. It probably scared the crap out of him that something else was smarter then him.

well i do, not trying to trap anyone, just making conversation. even if you don't believe it we can still converse. i'm not recruiting.......

thinkin of blood transfusion- that's how you were born in part

Does anyone think that the life that is after death can be seen now while we live in this physical world and body? And I do think a few had it before Christ died on the cross. Enoch and Moses comes to mind. As well as the mount of transfiguration.

And it's a shame that some here don't see the ones here. An organization is not God, therefore they can't give these gifts.

Thanks JumpinJive, I got the video from a link sirg posted. I think i'll order the thing.

I don't think people get the language being spoken about the devil. It's all quite beyond anything that is taught that i've seen. From what i know of it, instead of going by what i have been told. To believe that there is something like the devil that is like God and against him. Ha-they seemed pretty friendly to each other in Job. "Hey Devil, Wassup Dude" "O nothin much just walkin around, hey hows it with you?" "Heeeeeyyyyyyy!!!!!! dude, look at Job man ain't he somethin!!!!" "hmmm that gives me an idea"

http://www.flightfromdeath.com/trailer_high.htm

Yeah I know the story that was supposed to happen when Lucifer got kicked out of heaven with a third of the angels. All before man and all that. I don't buy it at all. The devil would not exist without man, so it's a story far deeper then something outside of a life. But I don't focus on that, the 2 thirds out number the 1 third, therefore overcoming that which is against me. If you think Revelations 12 is about the Messiah being born you are quite right. And it is closer to 'home' then you think. O imo of course..........

a general view of it in different faiths http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven

I see plenty of heaven and heavens in the old testament Dot. I do believe it is a now thing though. Not some future happening that isn't relevant or real.

i've sworn off gsc a few times but just needed a break probably do now never know but nothing wrong with staying or staying away from here

That's pretty cool Abi. In light of who knows the heart of men and women and all that. And just to converse about this and that openly without fear of "doctrinal reproof". Certainly appealing to me. Every one it seems in "christian" circles wants to force some belief when Jesus taught quite differently. Allowing for the hearer to hear and understanding to come in it's own time and terms. And also that the understanding of one person may be different then another. And neither is wrong.