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Hey Raf, sorry it took a while to get back to you. That was the first verses that came to mind upon reading your post. Forgiveness is healing. There is no other thing greater then the healing in forgiveness. So I didn't have some long drawn out thoughts on the matter just those few verses. And it's healing power. Without forgiveness there is no healing. Should we forgive? Yes. Should we be forced to? No. Why forgive? Because it's the right thing to do. When to communicate it is for each situation. O and we are the Son of Man, not just Jesus. We have the same power.

Mark 2:6But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts, 7Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only? 8And immediately when Jesus perceived in his spirit that they so reasoned within themselves, he said unto them, Why reason ye these things in your hearts? 9Whether is it easier to say to the sick of the palsy, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and take up thy bed, and walk? 10But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,)

taking the blinders off one by one... seems as one folds a few fold with it and how is it that they can be seen being blinders, darkness, can't see around em perhaps the curiosity of what's not being seen or an inner drive that gets tapped into to wrestle that angel till it's one with you till there isn't anything to fight finding it quite enjoyable though it was a bit bloody yet the tender mercies of angels ministering there is no other way to go for the hunger hungry yet fed till satisfied to hunger again to see God face to face

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An emotion, a feeling, understated imo. Something that burns within, from the tips of your toes to the top if your head. And everything around you on fire. Bigger then we are, it engulfs, surrounds, saturates every fiber of our being.

Yes Roy, why is God thought of as being distant. Scriptures declare different. That peace that passes all understanding can be seen and heard and felt and lived. Else why would it say to do it? Beyond understanding into a whole new spirit of reality.

14:2For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. For no man understands...hmmm-then who is this person speaking with? God? Yeah and perhaps this God is another person who hears spiritually what is being said-mysteries. If it's as we were taught in the way-that God and man are communicating via spirit about 'mysteries' then what is the point. The spirit edifyed? How would I know it? I believe this is about people speaking to people in the spirit. No man's understanding can catch what is being said. The spiritual man or woman hears though. The ones with ears to hear and eyes to see. And yes the mind I believe is quite involved and transformed, not by renewing but by edification.

Men and Women pouring their hearts out on these pages and someone comes along with a friggin book. They don't know wtf they are writing about. How bout serving God as in helping his people? FORGOT about that DIDN"T YOU!!!! GreaseSpot Cafe has done more for people then the entire library of CES or CFF or anyone else. You Larry and Connie, I am ashamed to have even heard of this. Post the friggin book! What??!!! You don't think we had anything to do with it???!!! Without us there wouldn't be a you!!!

Why don't you post your book Larry? PDF will work. What are you afraid of? Just exactly what do you charge for your book? How many times did Paul charge for his letters? It's your book, your expense, what's it for? Your own pocket or others to learn? Chicken Sh!t punks still Way branded. How many chains are still wrapped around your heart? How deep is the Christ buried and blocked by your own selfishness?

the seven angels and seven seals and seven trumpets seven times seven plus one..rockin many angels sitting there which one is ready? more then a few..............

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Killed the thread I guess. I am direct but mean no harm. Laying out a different perspective can turn a head. Hopefully Son of Master will respond to my many questions. We were not allowed to question in twi. If you have no answer, fine. I'm willing to discuss in detail as much as is within me all that I have posted. Peace-

1 Thessolonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.

Yeah, this is good for when you have different machines together with the monitors of all machines in view from one spot. Windows remote desktop is good for when the machines cannot be seen by the same set of eyes at one place. Any way I use Synergy because I have 3 machines that are all p3's and can't handle the load of all my apps on one machine. So I separated them between the three so they would work better. Even with high end machines I can see it would be useful. Not always switching keyboards and mice to use a different computer to perform different tasks. Keeps your work space more managable with one keyboard and mouse. And the other Keyboards and mice still work too.

And where is that spirit? Like I said most want it to happen outside of themselves. So it can be analyzed and defined to serve one's self. Rather then experiencing this occurence within, where the kingdom of heaven and God is. The defences and guards are taken down, falling like a great wall and scales upon the eyes. To see the unseeable, the invisable Soul, Spirit, God that so many claim to know. The body soul and spirit become one-eternal everlasting, Changing dust to dust and Abraham saw this dust as looked into the heavens which reflect the spirit within. Your seed shall be....... A new birth, an awakenening, an enlightenment. Pick the name of your choice, there are many, should one care to research it from outside the experience, or from within it.

What happened to the spirit teaching the Mind? How is it that Jesus' Mind was bypassed when he explained how it works here- Matthew 14:25These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. 27Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. How is the mind 'bypassed'? Seems to state that the mind is certainly involved.

What if the spirit of man and the spirit of God got together and became one? Wouldn't it happen 'in the air'? That's in us and around us? Would that be manifesting the Spirit? When Jesus said in 'like manner' did he not disappear into the air? Acts 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. Acts 2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. And those that heard, didn't they interpret these tongues? The spirit of man and the manifestation of spirit? No connection yet? The mind is certainly involved because this is where it all happens. Transformed into-is not just a change of mind but a total change that keeps going. Most want 'it' to happen outside of themselves. But it involves each person personally and uniquely.

1 Corinthians 12:11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. You don't see all these being one?

Well, I don't worship the greek text. I move on inspiration or revelation or intuition. Whatever one wants to call it. Dividing things up is division. Unless one understands "One' as Jesus spoke of. So yes The Word is a double edged sword dividing soul and spirit. Ever wonder why? And why can they not be one as the manifestations are one as in manifestation. It's all of them together. Divided up in Corinthians to help people see the 'One'. One and selfsame Spirit does not exclude the soul. Without the soul there wouldn't be any spirit.

Wisdom is the foundation of the '9'.

Just because different words are used, doesn't mean they are not describing the same thing, or different aspects of the same thing. Didn't Jesus pray that we would be 'one'? How does this bypass anything?

The Spirit doesn't have intellectual abilities? You are quoting two verses that says it's the Word and 'He' that saves us then you go on about renewing the mind does the saving. I don't agree with this here, though renewing the mind is a good thing.Mostly it has been taught to be discipline or focusing on one thing or another. Which is required when there is a need. But I'd say it's mostly letting go, and stop fighting the spirit that is within every person. What is the difference? How are they the same? You can't 'see' either one of them. They are both invisible. How can one tell the difference between the two if they are not the same?

Without understanding what the mind is how does one know it's bypassed? So what is the mind?

For some reason the link to Sun Java that is found when clicking chat and clicking, downloading SunJava from that link has caused errors on my computer. In the downloaded programs folder in the windows folder ther are '?' marks on 2 Java runtimes. I uninstalled Sun Java and reninstalled Sun Java from this site. http://www.filehippo.com/download_java_runtime/ And it seems to have fixed the problem. No more '?' by my sunjava in Downloaded programs. Perhaps this could be of some help to some here. I've seen this same problem discussed at geeks togo.com and they recomended the link I posted.

Hey Thanks BB and Greasy. Checked into KVM's and that's one monitor and more then one computer. Which works but costs about 40 dollars to control two computers one monitor with one key board and mouse. And quite a bit more if one wants to control more then two from one keyboard and mouse. Now this thing will let you jump seamlessly screen to screen on as many computers as that are set up as clients. The only thing I'd like to see this do is drag and drop between computers, although copy and paste works for text sometimes it seems. But anyway I had to get another p3 computer that I already had, just to run Skype. I put it on my p3 850 and my other running stuff on the p3 500. Yeah I know I should quit being so cheap lol and buy a dual core or something. But hey these old machines stll work! One of my customers upgraded their computers a while back and I picked up a few p3's and a slew of monitors and a few printers. So I have one pc with two monitors and one with one. run Skype on the one with one and the rest on the other one. I'm not a big gamer so I really don't need the bigger faster computers. But Skype needed at least 1 Ghz to run well, though it worked on the 500 it works better on the 850. Both computers have about the same stuff on it except Skype on the one. Running a 64meg and 128 meg graphics card on the 500 and a 128 card on the other. And I use this- http://www.goodsync.com/index.html to Sync a few things like my favorites.