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about the bible or related info in your head? not that I know much, but thinking together helps I understand that pfal may dominate thoughts, but can we go further, deeper

there are many things that are invisible and can be seen love, hate, fear, despair, happiness, many more all these are talked about in Paul's letters these are god, the invisible god

whatever you want to see

there are only five places for invisible in the bible, so I'm going to list them Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 1 Timothy 1:17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen. Hebrews 11:27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible. there they are Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

depends on what you are looking to see

for the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead

always true

I hope you come around sometime. Some of us do not subscribe or buy into the circle-jerk games being played.

Christians always say and do this, and never say and do that. Atheists always say and do this, and never say and do that. both statements are lies a good "rule" or thing to consider is never say always and never say never so.... whatever....

Yeah Allan, I see your point. The same talk some accused others of, they are actually doing it. I don't let it bother me anymore. Just ignore it best you can.

nice....keep your wit about you, wisdom will guide

"Contemplation is vital, thinking is vital; he who thinks little errs much." ~Leonardo Da Vinci

"I don't know" is a perfectly legitimate answer to "God", or anything to do with said god. It's a much better answer than relying on what others have written about it, including scripture. So, where to go for answers?

what or who is god, if prelearned ideas of god are eliminated then what could it be it's fine to not believe in god, it's mostly someone else's idea of what god is that has been introduced in some sort of biased way an old Indian/survival book I read once called it "the spirit that moves through all things" there will always be the old back and forth between ideas, but really what is god and what is it that is believed or not believed, something that should be answered to yourself

I agree, a lot of the phrases used to promote wayism were not main line Christianity "inherently accurate" was never used in the Lutheran or Southern Baptist teachings

As if death is a bad thing Love your enemies, whether it's death or something else Fear not

Since everyone dies everyone gets paid lol we earned the right

yeah, the definition of a cult for sure, nothing to do with nature naturism or humanism you can label it anything you want, but I will use the terms as they were correctly intended

the terms of naturalist and naturism has its beginnings in art and paintings of nature of course, today the terms have been perverted

or a clear definition of what it is to die? not meaningless at all, but it is the subject....or object

a naturalist would know that which dies will be born again does the humanist see the same? doubt it

"Compassion becomes real when we recognize our shared humanity." ~Pema Chodron

I do like that, much I don't know.....yet.....

wow raf! lol, no problems with that thinking you know the old saying “When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.” ― Arthur Conan Doyle, The Case-Book of Sherlock Holmes "

Interesting.... I don't know is as good as it gets as stated there....