Ron G.

Oenophile... All your links are simply bogus. They are all by and for homosexuals trying to promote their agenda. The rhetoric is plainly "consensus facilitation 101" using such words as "myth" and phrases like "we all agree" etc. to discredit the opposing viewpoint. You can see the same rhetoric in white supremicist literature to demonize blacks and the same rhetoric in anti gun literature to disguise their lies.

http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=645976

I just happen to have before me a box of Colonial Iodized salt. Mfg or at least distributed by Cargill, Inc. Minneapolis, MN 55440 http://www.cargillsalt.com Ingredients: salt, sodium silicoaluminate, dextrose, potassium iodide 0.006%, and sodium bicarbonate. Mortons is similar, but I can't find my box. Dextrose, btw, is sugar. Interesting, huh?

It's kinda hard to answer your question not knowing the soil and subsurface in your area, and the going rate for such services there. The work and requirements sound about right...just guessing, but the cost is a lot higher than I would expect. However you live in the north where everything is much higher and everything is union dominated.

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&ar...63033640C157944 New device gives women teeth where it matters Jillian Green June 07 2005 at 06:50AM A rape victim once wished for teeth "where it mattered". Now a device has been designed to "bite" a rapist's penis. The patented device looks and is worn like a tampon, but it is hollow and attaches itself with tiny hooks to a man's penis during penetration. "We have to do something to protect ourselves. While this will not prevent rape it will assist in identifying attackers and securing convictions," claims Sonette Ehlers, inventor of the device. Not everyone, however, is convinced of its usefulness. Lisa Vetten, of the Centre for the Study of Violence and Reconciliation (CSVR) says: "It is like we are going back to the days where women were forced to wear chastity belts. It is a terrifying thought that women are being made to adapt to rape by wearing these devices. 'It is a terrifying thought that women are being made to adapt to rape' "We should rather focus our energy on changing men's mindsets and behaviour towards women." Ehlers, of Kleinmond, who has worked for the South African Institute for Medical Research, said she had been seeking a way to help women since meeting a rape survivor 20 years ago who commented that she wished she had teeth in her vagina. "Over the past three years I have been working on this device. It is now completely safe and ready to be manufactured and distributed," she said. It had been designed with engineers, gynaecologists, psychologists and urologists. It was "hygienic - no human hands will be involved in the manufacture". In the event of rape, the device folds itself around the rapist's penis, attaching to the skin with microscopic hooks. It is only when the rapist withdraws that he will realise the device is clamped around his penis. 'He will have to be put under anaesthetic to have it removed' "Its design will also go a long way towards lowering HIV infection as semen is contained in the device ... as well as preventing sexually transmitted diseases and unwanted pregnancies," Ehlers says. As it is impossible to remove the device from a penis without medical help, hospitals and clinics will be able to alert police when assistance is sought. "This will rule out any possibility of the rapist's escaping arrest and speed up conviction." If the rapist tries to remove the device, it will only embed itself further. "He will have to be put under anaesthetic to have it removed. He will not be able to leave it as he will be unable to urinate." A woman would have to wear the device every day. "We never know when we might be raped. This device should become a part of every woman's daily routine, just like brushing her teeth." Last year, there were 52 733 reported rapes. In a study, the Gender-Based Violence Programme at the CSVR analysed 162 rapes in Johannesburg's inner city and found that one in four had been a gang rape. The study found that 56 percent of the victims had been raped by two men and 23 percent by three. Although Ehlers is optimistic that the device will go a long way towards reducing the high incidence of rape in this country, rape organisations are not so sure. "Women would have to wear this every minute of their lives on the off-chance that they would be raped," Vetten says. "I am concerned at how normal rape has become that we would even consider a device like this." Chanaz Mitchell, spokesperson for the National Network on Violence against Women, says although it is a good idea for women to protect themselves, men should take responsibility for their actions. "We still need to focus on men as perpetrators of this heinous crime." Mitchell is also concerned that the device might lead to further violence against victims. "Once the rapist realises this device is attached to him, he is more than likely to take his anger out on his victim." Mbuyiselo Botha, spokesperson for the Men's Forum, said anything that could empower women should be welcomed. "I would encourage my wife and two daughters to wear this device. It would send a signal to would-be rapists that they won't have it easy." Ehlers intends launching the prototype next month. "It will be available at supermarkets, chemists, anywhere where one would be able to buy tampons," she says. The device is to cost R1 and also be available in bulk packs.

The Scouts are dedicated to building character, honor, integrity and self motivation in young men. I can't see where adding the sexual pressures and social pressures of ANY sexual activity should enter into this. Parents should be able to be secure in knowing the boys won't be exposed to perverts.

I'll be thinkin about y'uns. I just popped a Bandit for the occasion.

Ann Bancroft, dead at 73 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050607/ap_on_...o/obit_bancroft

Okay...here we go... Inside the museums, Infinity goes up on trial Voices echo this is what salvation must be like after a while But Mona Lisa musta had the highway blues You can tell by the way she smiles See the primitive wallflower freeze When the jelly-faced women all sneeze Hear the one with the mustache say, "Jeeze I can't find my knees" Oh, jewels and binoculars hang from the head of the mule But these visions of Johanna, they make it all seem so cruel The peddler now speaks to the countess who's pretending to care for him Sayin', "Name me someone that's not a parasite and I'll go out and say a prayer for him" But like Louise always says "Ya can't look at much, can ya man?" As she, herself, prepares for him And Madonna, she still has not showed We see this empty cage now corrode Where her cape of the stage once had flowed The fiddler, he now steps to the road He writes ev'rything's been returned which was owed On the back of the fish truck that loads While my conscience explodes The harmonicas play the skeleton keys and the rain And these visions of Johanna are now all that remain Wait a minute...that was Dylan. Sorry I get all that stuff confused...the 60's are still a big blur to me. The 60's were hard on all of us.

Suzy Creamcheese, Oh, mama, now What's got into ya? Suzy you were such a sweetie Yeah, yeah, yeah Once you were my one and only Yeah, yeah, yeah Blow your mind on too much Kool-aid Yeah, yeah, yeah Took my stash and left me lonely Yeah, yeah, yeah Suzy Creamcheese, Oh, baby, now What's got into ya? Suzy Creamcheese, Oh, mama, now What's got into ya? Got to find my Suzy Creamcheese Yeah, yeah, yeah Think I'll go and start my car Yeah, yeah, yeah Really dig her, she's so freaky Yeah, yeah, yeah Heard *The Heat* knows where you are Yeah, yeah, yeah Suzy Creamcheese, Oh, baby, now What's got into ya? Suzy Creamcheese, Oh, mama, now What's got into ya? Wait a minute...that was Zappa. Sorry I get all that stuff confused...the 60's are still a big blur to me. The 60's were hard on all of us.

What’s Wrong with the Boy Scouts? Hans Zeiger Are the Boy Scouts of America really so awful that they are no longer welcome in our schools? On June 1, the Portland (Maine) School Committee voted six to three to ban the Boy Scouts from distributing promotional literature to students. The committee argues that it wishes to uphold its commitment to diversity and nondiscrimination. Far from doing so, the committee has discriminated against one of the most diverse and valuable organizations in America. This summer will commence the national Boy Scout Jamboree. It will be a diverse gathering of people from every geographical region of the country, every ethnicity and race, every economic class, every political belief, and every major religious practice. The Boy Scouts celebrated diversity long before it was the popular thing to do. Anyone wishing to stand by the idea that the Scouts are behind the times on diversity ought to visit the Jamboree and see for themselves. The Boy Scouts is not a hate group comparable to Hitler Youth (“brown shirt” has become common epithet against the Scouts) or the Ku Klux Klan, or a militant terrorist corps like the Taliban (as the Philadelphia Daily News editorialized). Neither is it a church (as federal Judge Napoleon Jones defined it) or a public accommodation (as several courts have defined it). The Boy Scouts is a private organization that begins meetings with this simple oath: “On my honor I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country, and to obey the Scout Law, to help other people at all times, to keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.” And what is wrong with that? That oath is a Statement of Self-Government, if ever there was such a thing. In America, - though they teach it not in Portland, Maine – self-government is the foundation of all other kinds of government. If we are to have laws, we must have order. If we are to have a political charter, we must first have personal character. And what is wrong with that? A Scout is “Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, Reverent.” What is wrong with that? A Scout does a good turn daily. What is wrong with that? A Scout is prepared. What is wrong with that? The answer, enemies of Scouting might suggest, is honor. The problem with the code of character that Scouts must adhere to is the idea of honor, the idea that an individual is accountable before God and his fellow man to uphold his duty with integrity, service, and selflessness. For if one is subject to moral laws higher than himself, and his honor is bound up in duty to those laws, the supremacy of the individual must meet its defeat. Boy Scouting is a bold resistance to the rising individualism of the age. Scouting teaches self-government, not selfishness. It should come as no surprise that the Boy Scouts are hated by the most vocal of the individualists whose moral agendas have no compatibility with Scouting: atheists and homosexual activists. So the school committee in Portland, Maine is making a mistake. They’ve declared war on the best things America has to offer. They’ve set themselves firmly against self-government. And they’ve violated their own commitment to nondiscrimination by discriminating against the nation’s finest youth organization. Perhaps the Portland School Committee should hear from supporters of the Boy Scouts. Contact Superintendent Mary Jo O’Connor at superintendent@portlandschools.org. Tell her to continue allowing the Boy Scouts to have promotional literature in the Portland Schools. ~~~~ Hans Zeiger's book Get Off My Honor: The Assault on the Boy Scouts of America can be preordered at online booksellers.

Just one word for dmiller and Robert Earl Keen. BANDITS!

I gave up them nasty and expensive smokes last January. After 43 years of smoking it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it was gonna be. I occasionally indulge in dip, now, but it's going soon.

What's an Ipod? Is that one of those green things you find under your house right after you notice your kids are starting to act a little odd?

Just like homeschooling, except her pay was higher. Nothing is mentioned about whether Miss Lottie could read or write...or cypher. Just noticed that.

The only really safe way to travel is to travel nekkid and unconscious. Just go to your private booth, strip, lie down on a gurney, place the mask over your face and let your friendly staff do the rest. An ironic note to the original post is that it's been published and documented that MD's cause more deaths than guns and knives together. Sounds to me as if they don't like competition.

"Panties not best thing in world, but next to best thing." --Old Chinese proverb

She's just another satisfied customer of the newly opened Martindale University of Female Fitness (M.U.F.F.) A fellers gotta make a livin', don't he?

The insanity never stops... Docs Want Kitchen Knives Banned Sunday, May 29, 2005 There is a menace lurking in British homes — the common kitchen knife. Citing a rash of stabbings across Britain, three physicians wrote in a British Medical Journal article published Friday that the large pointed knife beloved by chefs both professional and amateur was needlessly deadly and should be replaced by safer, blunter counterparts. "The long pointed kitchen knife is an easily available, potentially lethal weapon, particularly in the domestic setting," wrote lead author Dr. Emma Hern of West Middlesex University Hospital (search) in London. Short knives, Hern and her colleagues Drs. Will Glazebrook and Mike Beckett wrote, generally caused only superficial wounds, but long pointed blades slip into human flesh in a way akin to "cutting into a ripe melon." The doctors proposed a simple solution — outlawing pointed choppers and slicers. "Government action to ban the sale of such knives," they wrote, "would drastically reduce their availability over the course of a few years." Reaction from professional chefs in Britain was less than enthusiastic. "Kitchen knives are designed for a purpose," the head of the Edinburgh, Scotland, Restaurateurs Association told The Scotsman newspaper. "It would be like asking a surgeon to perform an operation with a bread knife instead of a scalpel." In America, where deadly weapons tend to be more sophisticated, leading authorities thought the proposed British ban was cute. "Are they going to have everybody using plastic knives and forks and spoons in their own homes, like they do in airlines?" Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association (search), asked The New York Times. "Can sharp stick control be far behind?" wondered LaPierre's erstwhile opponent, Peter Hamm of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence (search). New York celebrity chef Anthony Bourdain, not known for mincing words, was both blunt and sharp-tongued. "This is yet another sign of the coming apocalypse," he told the Times. "Where there is no risk, there is no pleasure."

DEATH OF A MARINE By Jeff Jacoby The Boston Globe Sunday, May 29, 2005 http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial...th_of_a_marine/ Monday night, in a special Memorial Day broadcast of ''Nightline," Ted Koppel will call the roll of the more than 900 US troops who have died in Iraq and Afghanistan during the past 12 months. As each name is read, viewers will see a photograph of the fallen soldier. Executive producer Tom Bettag says the program is meant to remind Americans, ''regardless of their feelings about the war, that the men and women who have given their lives in our behalf are individuals with names and faces." When ABC aired a similar "Nightline" in April 2004, it was accused in some quarters of trying to inflame antiwar sentiment for political purposes. In the event, it proved a solemn and respectful tribute, and there has been no controversy this year. Long lists of soldiers killed in wartime can have great emotional power, as anyone who has been to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington can attest. However dignified and moving, though, in the end such a listing can really describe them only as a group: *They wore the uniform and died in the service of their country.* But who they were individually, how they served, what they left behind -- that is more than a catalogue of names can convey. So here is the story behind just one of the names ''Nightline" will enumerate on Memorial Day: Sergeant Rafael Peralta of Alpha Company, 1st Battalion, 3d Marines. He was killed in action on Nov. 15 during Operation Dawn, the epic battle to retake the Sunni stronghold of Fallujah. What follows is chiefly based on an account by Marine Lance Corporal T.J. Kaemmerer, a combat correspondent who took part in the operation that cost Peralta his life. Reports also appeared in the Los Angeles Times, The Marine Corps Times, The San Diego Union Tribune, and on ABC News. On the day he died, Rafael Peralta was 25 years old, a Mexican immigrant from San Diego who had enlisted in the Marines as soon as he became a legal resident. He earned his citizenship while on active duty and re-upped in 2004. He was a Marine to the core, so meticulous that when Alpha Company was training in Kuwait, he would send his camouflage uniform out to be pressed. He was no less passionate about his adopted country: His bedroom wall was adorned with a picture of his boot camp graduation and replicas of the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights. ''Be proud of being an American," he wrote to his kid brother Ricardo, 14. ''Our father came to this country and became a citizen because it was the right place for our family to be." It was the first letter he ever wrote to Ricardo -- and the last. It arrived in San Diego the day after he died. The Marines of the 1/3 were on the front lines in Fallujah, purging the city of terrorists in house-to-house combat. As a platoon scout, Peralta could have stayed back in relative safety. Instead, as was often the case, he volunteered to join the assault team. On the morning of Nov. 15, one week into the battle for Fallujah, his squad had cleared three houses without incident. They approached a fourth, kicking in two locked doors simultaneously and entering both front rooms. They found them empty. Another closed door led to an adjoining room. As the other Marines spread out, wrote Kaemmerer, ''Peralta, rifle in hand, tested the handle." It wasn't locked. He threw open the door, preparing to rush in -- and three terrorists with AK-47s opened fire. He was shot multiple times in the chest and face. As he fell, severely wounded, he managed to wrench himself out of the doorway to give his fellow Marines a clear line of fire. The gunfire was deafening. To the sound of the terrorists' AK-47s was added the din of the Marines' M16 rifles and Squad Automatic Weapon, a machine gun. The battle was raging, with Peralta down and bleeding heavily and the other Marines firing at the enemy in the back room, when, in Kaemmerer's words, ''a yellow, foreign-made, oval-shaped grenade bounced into the room, rolling to a stop close to Peralta's nearly lifeless body." As the other Marines tried to flee, Peralta reached for the grenade and tucked it into his gut. Seconds later, it exploded with such force that when his remains were returned to his family for burial, they were able to identify him only by the tattoo on his shoulder. His five comrades-in-arms, shielded from the worst of the blast by Peralta's last act as a Marine, survived. ** ** ** ** ''Right now, people are really nice and everything," Peralta's 12-year-old sister Karen told a reporter 10 days after her brother's death. ''But I know that when it comes to later on, they are going to forget him. They're going to forget about him." No, Karen. The Marines, always faithful, do not forget their heroes. And neither does the grateful nation that pauses to honor them this week -- the nation Rafael Peralta loved so deeply, and for which he gave his last full measure of devotion. (Jeff Jacoby is a columnist for The Boston Globe.)

Trefor... By definition a terrorist is someone who attempts to attain a goal by using schocking acts against innocent life, property and individual liberty to create fear to demoralize and control their opposition. It's a common tactic in war and always has been. The firebombings of Hamburg and Dresden by the RAF and USAF is a good example. The "war on terrorism" seems almost like an oxymoron to me. How to you wage war against a tactic of war? NAMBLA seeks to destroy kids lives to further their perverse agenda of self gratification. The ACLU and Morris Sleaze seek to destroy liberty via over the top tort abuse in order to further the states agenda of reducing citizens to totally dependent serfdom. Obviously, OFM was quite accurate in his assessment. Abigail... Now do a google on "consensus facilitaion".

Abi... I think you're onto something. Do a Google on "Hegelian dialectic". You'll learn much.

What a FASCINATING thread!! It seems to cut to the chase regarding indidual responsibility and the role of the state. On one hand we have some folks who would castrate the perverts, carry firearms and use them..in short...show resistance. We'll call them the dogs. On the other hand, we have those who think people shouldn't be armed, people should rely on "the authorities" for protection...in short...be dependent. We'll call them the sheep. The engine powering all this is the state that releases "facts and statistics" to frighten the sheep and alarm the dogs. The states solution is to enact worthless and unenforcable legislation regarding the problem (here, it's sex offenders) to give the sheep the feeling of security. The state, further, releases "information" convincing the sheep, through lies and fake statistics, that the dogs are rabid...to further frighten the sheep of the dogs, so they won't recognize the dogs as their true protectors. The states purose in this is to make all dependent on the state...who we'll call the wolves. The wolves are the only ones qualified to have claws and fangs, leaving the sheep and dogs to be slaughtered while the dogs yap and the sheep bleat helplessly.