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My two favs or Old Joyful Noise Tunes. If I try real hard I can still hear Cliff A. singing "My Life's Dream" and "Give Christ a Try." Sorry I don't remember all the lyrics, but I bet someone round here does. :)-->

Thanks for sharing the articles, insurgent. I feel sorry for all those poor wc slobs stuck in a dead organization. :(--> Twould be nice if they could experience "the real thing" and be a part of something exciting and growing and thrilling because people's lives are being transformed. So sad....... Our church had VBS this past week, and was absolutely packed with kids wanting to be involved. We didn't want to turn anyone down, so actually had kids meeting outside cause all the classrooms were full. We had thousands of kids in the program, probably more than people in TWI. Too bad they're stuck in a dead end "church" that's never gonna go anywhere. :(-->

well, this news gives me hope that there are perhaps, thinking humans left in the cult. :)-->

Well, as usual, I came up on the tail end of the discussion, and am, naturally, a little, um, behind? OK, all smart aleckness aside, (I'm doing my best to renew my mind and hide the inner smart aleck in me that rears its ugly head from time to time) I'm just wondering how all of us so highly opinionated peeps ever survived in a cult??? :)--> Maybe said innie can let his inner self go as well, and handle whatever consequences his email may bring. I'm assuming he is an adult. :)-->

Lotza hugs and kisses to you and yours on your special day. Hope it's filled with happy memories and precious moments with friends and family. :)-->

Yeah but, Calvinists leave room for suffering. The Way Inc. was so far removed from actual Christianity, it's a joke. It's a total insult to think that the behavior of anybody in a "leadrship position" in the way, inc, had anything to do with anything remotely "Christian." I speak from experience. :)-->

I've been away for a while.....but I see the same ole, ole people hiding behind bible verses. The standard of the bible is not something to hide behind, but something to be upheld. The character of Jesus Christ is not something that one hides behind, but something one aspires to. It's so sad that some don't get it. It makes Christianity look so bad in the eyes of the betrayed. :(-->

Just a thought..... None of the crap that happened to us in the cult has anything to do with bible verses. The cult was so far removed from any behavior remotely "christian" it's downright insulting to compare the two. As always, just my humble opinion. :D-->

Oh geeeze. Oldies, we all know you live in an alternate universe. Please, if you can converse with us earthlings, we would appreciate you much more. :)--> oops, edited for very bad typo :)-->

The two drink limit was a joke, if one happened to be a "leader" in the cult. There were, and probably still are, many who drank more than was good for anybody. HQ was "party central" for many years. I doubt it's changed, except maybe you have to sneak a smoke, to go along with all that beer and Jack Daniels. :D-->

I wonder if LCM has had anything bad happen to him since "leaving the protection of the household," other than getting sued, that is.

Well, LCM lied.

I think Mikey should set up his own web-site. Then he can post all the lost teachings he wants to.

Johniam's post on the superlative thread got me to thinking (ok, for a nanosecond anyway :D--> ) about what it means to be a "greasespot by midnight." Does that mean if you exit TWI you can come here and post immediately and be a part of this illustrious gang of misfits in the cult? Little did loyboy know how prophetic his words were.... I guess he was afraid if we left, we might actually turn into homeowners, or churchgoers, or God forbid, contributing members of society? I'm proud to be a grease spot. :D-->

Johniam, To be a superlative, that would have to be; "You'll be the greasiest grease spot there ever was, by midnight!" :D-->

well said, Shaz.

Yeah, exactly, Steve. My Grandma, who I was close to growing up, was a native Texan, and a Texas History buff. She loved the Alamo and the myths and folklore that went along with it. Now that I'm older and she is gone, I really wish I had paid more attention to her stories about her ancestors who fought for Texan Independence and then again in the Civil War. Who knew I would be living in her beloved Texas and feel such a connection to her and her family...

I skimmed the article. My only comment is "Yeah, whatever. --> " Honestly, I don't know enough to make an intelligent comment on what actually happened. But the bias of whoever wrote the article is pretty apparent. Maybe someday, when I have some time, it would be fun to investigate, but in the mean time.....I'm just really glad the Texans won, no matter how despicable they were. :D--> And Steve, I'm gonna check the local library here which has a big "Texas History" section for the book you mentioned. I'm just looking for something that's informative, yet easy to read.

Ah but Zix, it's much more fun to read a good book. ;)--> And Tom, as if we don't have enough golf courses around here, they're now building a Tom Fazio course, guess where? On Spring Creek, right down the street from me. Near the spot where the Texas army camped. I wonder if all those Texan warriors ever dreamed they were fighting a war for Independence so this area could be Golfers Heaven? I guess Fazio had to design a course here since Gary Player, Arnold Palmer and Jack Nicklaus all have courses here. Fazio's is gonna be almost right next to Augusta Pines. Sheesh. Too bad I don't golf. Mr. P-Mosh, do you golf?

Steve Thanks for the history lesson. I've been interested in the Battle of San Jacinto since moving here 5 years ago. I live just a couple of miles from Spring Creek, the vicinity of the home of Samuel McCurley, which was one of the stops of the Texan army on the way to the place where the battle happened. I've been fascinated to think of the army stomping through my neighborhood on the way to one of the most important battles for Texas Independence. Is there a particular book you can recommend to get the overall story of San Jacinto?

Too funny, outandabout, that's exactly what came to my mind as well. I think the tent was supposed to be "the biggest in the world."

And excath I think I know what you're saying. It's just as confusing when abuse isn't normal, when you haven't experienced it, and it's going on all around you. And you think maybe something isn't quite right, but you can't put your finger on it. And then ya try to investigate a little, and people out and out LIE to your face. What a tangled web it was. :(-->

Grizzy Ok, now I understand what you are saying. I've never considered the whole mess from the perspective you shared. But now I see how it would be relatively easy to dismiss it all. ;)-->

Goey, I hear you, and I understand what you are saying. I hope I'm not being "overly defensive" as I don't feel like I have anything to defend; certainly not the corruption of the cult. But I am wondering where this whole thing came from, and how it got started and proliferated as "informal doctrine." Yeah, you are right, it really doesn't matter in the bigger picture. People were used because of it. No doubt about that. I guess I'm just trying to untangle the knots in my own mind, and figure out how I totally missed it, at first anyway. :(-->

PS excath I agree with you. The adultery and fornicating were just symptons of a greater evil.