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How about the STFI Necks? ( thank you, thank you, I was up til 3am last night)

And another class, goodie! We just don't have enough, ya know!

"caught up in a web of lies and deceit of his own making"

I'm sorry, I realize I wasn't clear on my previous post. What I meant was more in the line of behavior in self-proclaimed Christians, not theology. I've seen too many examples of people who say one thing and do another. I guess I have more of a mistrust of groups and organizations overall and have no interest right now in getting involved with any church or group. Maybe that will change. I do meet great examples of people genuinely trying to lead a good life and treat others with respect and dignity, some Christians, others not. I tend to think more highly of people just trying to be good and do good regardless of their theology, but if their faith or theology motivates them in that direction, that's great.

I think of all the documents I have read regarding CES/STFI, Bob Maffit's letter saddened me the most. DWBH asked me and others why I hold JWS in high regard. I don't remember all of what I posted before, but I do remember speaking of John's character. Someone can have high character and still be a poor leader. I believe one of John's weakness has always been a strong, many times misplaced, sense of loyalty to a small group of people that didn't always have his best, or the ministry's best, intentions at heart. For many years he trusted JAL and MG and now that they are gone, his loyalty has gone to DG. I know very little personally about DG, since I left before he really came to power, but the board seemed to be very happy to have lots of time and money to throw their way. I was very happy to be involved with CES for a few years, but after a while, I think KG tried to "test" me with a couple of personal prophecies to see how far I'd bite and go along with the "word". I didn't bite, but said I'd have to give it some time and see if it rang true in my heart. It didn't, and she just kind of moved on. I was also very saddened to hear about the Carlsons. I enjoyed spending time with Sue, and I'm so sorry she's been hurt, not only by a ministry, but by family as well. She's a very sharp individual, and anybody who wouldn't pay attention when she brings up an issue, would do so at their own downfall. I'm so sorry it's gone downhill, but I am so thankful I'm not involved anymore. However, I haven't left without taking a deep mistrust of Christians and ministries with me.

That's whut my grammer woulda said!

Unfortunately, that TWI attitude has spilled over into many companies, where loyalty and blind obedience if often favored over ability and independent thinking.

Tzaia, your original post was excellent! That's very similar to the experience I've had since leaving CES/STFI. I never really went through that process leaving TWI because I was siding with a group of leaders that had splintered off and was doing their own thing, instead of questioning my faith and "truth". I've also run across other people with similar backgrounds as mine and they have had a similar journey. The trinitarians are not the "bad guys" and ultimately, the creation is forever trying to explain the creator. We won't see the whole picture in this life.

Is that the view of McDonalds from space? Seriously, though, 25 cent McNuggets is still a wonderful thing. As long as I have a steering wheel that turns left, there will always be a McDonalds.

Thanks, Rejoice, I've taken the Meyers Briggs but not the other one. I'll check into it. By the way, Rejoice, the company I work for is named for the Texas founder who ran for president in the late 80's. Is that the same one you worked for?

I'm looking at a new career path and am considering criminal justice and/or paralegal. Anyone in criminal justice have any words of wisdom? It's a field that has interested me for a while and I've kept putting off getting info on it. When I went to my 30 year high school reunion recently, I was motivated by the people I talked to who said they really like what they do, and I had to admit I am not one of them. I currently work in a call center working with medical billing. Just thought some of you might have an insiders view of those fields.

Old offices and former retail space is probably cheaper in Martinsville. With the Gr(*sers currently out of the picture and JAL and his wife doing their thing ( hopefully), it's closer to the current board. Money's may be tighter if the group has shrunk from in-fighting. Any info on size of the current group?

Ok, don't know how the above post happened, but John and Jane and their families were in Tn at least up until 1998 when I lived there. I 've seen a couple of John's kids on Facebook but haven't seen or heard anything about the grownups in a while. Were you thinking of Chip and Elaine Allen earlier?

Amazing but not overly surprising that they would be "shocked" that your requirements be written. I think they're surprised when anyone doesn't just take them at their word, and yes, my most recent info for them only goes up to 2004. We may know each other.

Sounds like if you didn't measure up to standards, you'd be herded to the "nerd couch" like in Animal House.