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After some serious digging through php code, the who's chatting is back.

Now that is funny! Very nice.

I put the code back in, but it needs adjusting to account for changes in the software. Will take awhile and my time is a bit limited this weekend. Might be out for a few days. Sorry.

The security patch last night chopped it. Didn't notice it until this morning. I'll see if I can get it back in tonight.

BB, If you're still having problems, PM me and I'll see if I can help you out. Hopefully the lastest changes cleared it up enough for you to use it. GT

As for dial-up connections, not much I can do. Hopefully you're using a browser that will cache the chat program and speed up subsequent sessions. As for it loading faster from a direct link rather than from within the forum, there's nothing special about the link in the forum, except it specifies that the link be opened in a new window. I suspect browser specific issues with this type of link.

Sounds like a good idea. I'll throw it in.

Sorry, won't have access to a Mac for a couple days. If you dig around in your browser settings, there should be a section on cookies (usually in a "privacy" or "security" section) that allows you to manage them. Look for one's with greasespotcafe.com and delete them (they'll be re-created when you next visit the site). If anyone's got a Mac and knows where to manage the cookies in Safari, feel free to pipe in.

Look's like a cookie gone bad. If you post what browser your using (and version, if you know), I can tell you how to delete it.

Funny. Actually, it seems a number of our users have adware (better known as spyware) installed on their PCs. In the dead of the night, when the computer is on but doing nothing, this software goes out and visits the sites in your history file and creates an index of those sites. It then sends this index back to the creator of the adware (known as "phoning home") to be used in directing specific marketing material (better known as spam) back to you. I would suggest installing some software to remove and keep off this type of software off your PCs. Anti-virus software plus a decent adware removal program. I've used Ad-Aware and seems to work fairly well. http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

Google is just indexing the site. It follows all the links to see where they lead. They're not sending PMs or email. Google's BOT has no idea what each link leads to, so it follows them to find out. When it accesses the link, it just shows up as them being there.

Another TWIt high schooler making the local newspaper in Ohio. Free advertising for TWI? http://www.limaohio.com/story.php?IDnum=20667 ....

I doubt there is much that can be done about that. The only way the forum knows you're in chat is because you clicked on the link to open it. The chat software is a 3rd party application to the forum software and the only thing the forum knows how to do is load it. It doesn't know how to interact with it to find who's actually logged into it. It's the same as how it shows who's online and where. If you had two browsers open, one reading the Open forum, the other for About the Way forum, which ever browser you last clicked is where you're at.

Private Messages are private and only accessable by the user they are addressed to. No bot or spider can see them, unless you give them your login credentials (which would be ill-advised).

Have to check the option at the bottom of the page before you hit the send button: Options: Add a copy of this message to my sent items folder

Being a TWIt is death in part.

I was at that 1995 "gathering" and saying it had 12,000 and was overflowing is like saying the million man march had a million people in it. It was not "overflowing" and I doubt they had half that number. TWI's been bleeding people left and right ever since. A large percentage being sent packing intentionaly by TWI themselves.

I could say everyone has a duty to worship rocks and it would have just as much meaning. If you're going to require the human race to worship something, then you should define what that something is....not some vague something out there responsible for everything.

Darn Belle, you beat me to it. :P

Why does this thread remind me of sitting through one of Craig's corpse meetings, with him trashing someone for hours, then calling it loving? *GROAN* Even have a lively discussion of the use of English words. Sorry, but a word that means suitable for a particular person, condition, occasion, or place is appropriate usage. Can't do much about John Kerry using the same word. I hardly use "good" or "bad" anymore, since they don't have much meaning outside of a religoious context and seem so black and white. "Hate" is a another word I tend to disdain. And the country is only going to hell for those who believe such a place exist. I don't buy into the master-slave model of parenting. The "I pay the bills, you do what I tell you to do because I'm in charge." I've never seen it work. It may get a shot-term desirable response, but a kid will usually drop it at first opportunity. And why wouldn't they? And no, I never said kids have more rights than adults, nor do I think it. I do think they have basic human rights and should be treated as a human, not as an animal (or a slave). I also do not subscribe to hitting children. If it is wrong for someone to hit me as an adult, then it is wrong for them to hit me when I'm a child. This is basic human rights. Calling hitting a child spanking does not change the actuality of what is being done. And before the Bible thumpers jump on me, consider that the word for "rod" used in reference to disciplining a child is the same used in Psalm 23, "Thy rod and Thy staff comfort me." I've never been comforted by someone hitting me. And show me a shepherd that inflicts physical pain on his sheep. I agree with this. Revocation of privileges. It reflects how life works. When you perform well, you get more priveleges. When you don't, you have less privileges. When I perform well at my job, I make more money (in general -- life isn't always fair). If I perform poorly, or with blatant disregard, I risk losing my revenue stream. From everything I've seen and read, along with my own experience, suggests that positive reinforcement is the most powerful motivator. Kids, and adults, will do things for fear of suffering consequences, but only the minimum is done -- just enough to say it was done. Fear is a powerful motivator and is a part of everyday life. But doing something because you want to do it is a whole other story. Do you not recall the times your parents were proud of you, told you so, stood up for you (if they ever did)? Do you not recall craving this? Or how about when you did something stupid (as everyone does occasionally) and they were there for you to help, not make you feel like an idiot? What's going to happen when this girl next does something wrong, ends up with her face in the ground and needs her mother to help pick her back up? Will she look to her for help or will she be afraid to do so, thinking she might drive her deeper into the dirt with more public humiliation? If this mother really believes her daughter is going to be homeless and begging on the streets because she isn't taking school serious, then take her down on the streets and have her talk with the homeless people so she can see what that kind of life is like. But don't humiliate her in front of everyone. That has to be one of the worst things a parent could do. It severly damages the trust the child would have for her. Why would the girl ever tell her mother what is actually bothering her and affecting her performance at school? I prefer to have my kids feel and know that they can tell me anything and I'll be there for them. I never want them afraid of me or think I have a low opinion of them. Even if they turn out to be the scourge of society, they will always know that I will support them in whatever they choose to do and do whatever I can to help them and will always be proud of them. To have it any other way, I might as well shoot myself since there wouldn't be anything left in life to live for. I'm not perfect and definitely not an expert at raising kids. Far from it. But when some ****ing pervert did some God awful thing to my little girl, the kind of thing most kids never tell anyone out of shame, she told me immediately. And I was right there to help her, tell her she didn't do anything wrong, that I was so proud of her doing the difficult thing of telling me about it. I helped her back on her feet, made sure she was ok, then went and kicked that ****ing pervert's foot (well, legally -- just don't put the two of us in the same room because only one of us would be walking out). The thought of her not feeling she could tell me something like this, that I might react with scorn and/or consequences (whether justified or not) and living with it buried inside her the rest of her life is just God awful. So yes, I think what this mother did is disgusting. It might bring her grades up a bit for awhile, but it also drives a wedge between them. Life is going to throw more crap at this girl. Is she going to trust her mother to help her? Being humiliated in public is something one does not easily forget.

For the record, I have two kids. I stand by my comment. Why should it be ok for a 14 year old to be treated that way, if it's wrong for it to be done to an adult. Does a 14 year old have any less human rights? So what if she's not doing her school work. It's her life to do what she wants with it. Sudo, sorry about you situation. I'm sure it's rough. I think medical exams is a good suggestion. I had the same problem myself and it was medical related. When your body is not in order, it throws you for a loop and you can't think straight.

I think they should force the mother to stand on the corner with a sign saying "will work for food." for a few hours so she can see how it feels. Then ask her if it's appropriate punishment for a child. This is nothing but motivating someone via public humiliation. I'm sure she had fun at school the next few days with everyone talking about it. Real nice. Perhaps mommy should consider actually spending time with her daughter helping her with her school work, instead trying to scare her into performing better. Disgusting!

I'm supposed to be writing a how-to, but been kind of busy (and it's getting worse). There is a short how-to here: http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/index.ph...ndpost&p=193864

"I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who denies to another this right, makes a slave of himself to his present opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it." Thomas Paine

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