Allan

Unless you realise vaccinated people ALSO shed virus, you've missed the point, so that excuse for vaccinating kids is moot.

I'm thinking (not saying) that the hysteria and rhetoric around it and the 'group think' is resoundingly close to cultism.

1/Your 'perceiving' of my reasoning is incorrect actually. I don't believe I said "my God-given immune system is sufficient to protect me" My POV is that I'll 'run with what I've got' and not put made up suff into my body...at this stage anyways. 2/ I also did not 'infer' as is your 'assumption' that my God-given immune system would not stop me passing on the virus (neither does the covid jab btw) 3/ I am also not 'pushing my POV', you guys are, I'm not pushing anything except my thoughts/beliefs on what I am doing. Have I told ANYONE to NOT get the jab ? vs you and others telling me I should !

Twinky said " I simply do not understand why people refuse to do something that's pretty safe, costs nothing, and helps many. Most of those refusing have quite silly arguments, which do not stand up to close scrutiny or logical reasoning. I have heard caution, uncertainty, and can understand those people. I have also outright lies spouted as if they were absolute truth; those people I can't understand at all." Your response is interesting. Perhaps it's the self and same reason whilst in twi we couldn't understand by people did not want the 'greatness of God's Word'- interested on your take on WHY we thought that and was it a valid mindset at the time ? Those vehemently FOR covid vaccination, masks, mandates, isolation vs those AGAINST same...which one displays 'cultish' behavior ? According to John Juedes it's the former.

You appear to have very much developed the 'us' and 'them' mindset Twinks !! Why, may I ask, is that ? Is that perhaps because those who are against either the 'jab' or the 'mandate' to get it are opposed to your beliefs ? This is division, divisive tactics and many on here have escaped that type of attitude in a previous cult. Perhaps not 'everything' has been let go of ?The citizens are being divided into two camps...gee, almost like it was planned.

So was that professor of virology...the guy with children :)

Great news alright ! Able to skip the vaccine and just have the pill if the bodies defences get overwhelmed.

Depends on who is doing the peer reviewing....The Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine says it is overly flawed and the Lancet says for the most part it's a joke...read it for yourself... Peer review: a flawed process at the heart of science and journals (nih.gov)

So was Einstein :)

Yes, it's an ...opinion piece, often based on observation of reports, publications, first hand experience etc...the question for me is "would I be prepared to consider the opinion of an EXPERT in the VERY FIELD we are dicussing ? My answer would be YES (and especially as this medical expert does indeed have...children) I really wonder how many 'experts' in the field of virus immunology actually have children !

you appear to frequently use the phrase 'just an opinion piece'....when (as I said earlier post) it does not fit YOUR opinion, YOUR narrative....and you know MORE than these professionals and journalists ? shame on YOU !!

aaahhh...an opinion piece...by a more than qualified expert in THE field....but doesn't fit YOUR opinion, YOUR narrative...o.k. good one lol

"the sooner we all get on board we can......" perhaps it IS true, many pro covid vaxxers really motivated more by $$...back to work and other 'selfish' motivations ??

some...and others maybe influenced by other ...shall we say...'entities'....

Bolshe, when I use the term 'God-given' to me it impies "God has worked in a situation to bring a good, godly result" as in, when the first pilgrims arrived in America and were starving, the American Indians came and helped them by showing what grew, when and where etc...hence the term 'Thanksgiving'....I'm surprised an 'Aussie' knows more about a national holiday than an American !! Thanksgiving Day | Meaning, History, & Facts | Britannica

And just to keep everything fair minded, transparent, debatable and honest heres another article. Professor reveals he wouldn't give his children the Covid vaccine yet (msn.com)

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An extract from your article- But like at least one other signatory, he now has second thoughts about that plea, in part because it heightened political tensions. “I think it probably did more harm than good in terms of actually having relevant information flow out of China,” he says. shame on you posting a 'political' article !! Then again, where our 'political allegiance' lies I believe, has somewhat of a bearing on what 'angle' we come from and what one is inclined to believe. Which I think is a reason 'politics' is not allowed to be discussed on here :)

No not really, I place it in the category of 'God-given freedom' celebrated by 'THANKSgiving day' :)

could you explain Modcat WHY you do not believe the covid came from the Wuhan lab ??

Here it is again...Modcat denies it and Waysider says it's false ??...no point posting articles then is it if only articles posted by WW and modcat are true and everyone elses is 'false' ?? In Major Shift, NIH Admits Funding Risky Virus Research in Wuhan | Vanity Fair

Okaayyy, so the article I posted WITH the headline "NIH admits funding gain of function research at Wuhan lab"...Modcat does not believe the covid was a result of that gain of function ?? Go figure !! GS forum appears to be a lurking place of, um, how do I get around the 'no political' stance with mods ready to pull the trigger with fingers hovering over the 'delete' button...shall we say a 'lurking place of 'Brandon' admin worshippers' LMFAO

Again, I said 'virtually' no-one...keep it honest man !! If you drop a word, add a word...well you know the rest lol

He had underlying health issues with his lungs AND had been vaccinated. I had covid twice, first time was like a bad flu, second time round more like hay fever but hey, that could just be me with my haelthy God-given immune system.