Allan

Um, perhaps because this is a forum and after Oldiesman contributed the first post, people started jumping in with their 'justification' as to WHY THEY got vaxxed and why everyone else should as well...if we all kept our 'opinions' to ourselves, well, it wouldn't be much of a forum...would it ? The door of public discourse swings both ways dude.

ummmm....you better check if the vaccination makes one immune from catching covid ?? Peer reviwed papers would suggest not... you're running round in circles here...

no, simply an opinion

So we're all good to get into 'politics' side of it then ?

Um, er, well done Sherlock lol

your opinion

For I am not ashamed of the gospel (Grace admin is our 'gospel' today)...so.no. I'm not feeling controlled by anything :)

Waysider " Thanks Allan......for stating your position. THiS is what a *discussion forum* is all about. Something that twi NEVER allowed. " Perhaps ask Waysider if yourself and Rocky are still struggling to grasp a fairly simple concept.

well, they can figure it out on your body, not mine, comprende ?

Wierwille, Martindale, Fort were your experts in a given field at one time yeah ? Most people don't realise they're in a cult whilst they're still swallowing the blue pills :)

Hey, that's my Grandad !! Must get my genes from him lol

There you go , Twinky and Rocky simmered things down a bit, now Bolshes got me all fired up again....bastido !! lol

Unless you realise vaccinated people ALSO shed virus, you've missed the point, so that excuse for vaccinating kids is moot.

I'm thinking (not saying) that the hysteria and rhetoric around it and the 'group think' is resoundingly close to cultism.

1/Your 'perceiving' of my reasoning is incorrect actually. I don't believe I said "my God-given immune system is sufficient to protect me" My POV is that I'll 'run with what I've got' and not put made up suff into my body...at this stage anyways. 2/ I also did not 'infer' as is your 'assumption' that my God-given immune system would not stop me passing on the virus (neither does the covid jab btw) 3/ I am also not 'pushing my POV', you guys are, I'm not pushing anything except my thoughts/beliefs on what I am doing. Have I told ANYONE to NOT get the jab ? vs you and others telling me I should !

Twinky said " I simply do not understand why people refuse to do something that's pretty safe, costs nothing, and helps many. Most of those refusing have quite silly arguments, which do not stand up to close scrutiny or logical reasoning. I have heard caution, uncertainty, and can understand those people. I have also outright lies spouted as if they were absolute truth; those people I can't understand at all." Your response is interesting. Perhaps it's the self and same reason whilst in twi we couldn't understand by people did not want the 'greatness of God's Word'- interested on your take on WHY we thought that and was it a valid mindset at the time ? Those vehemently FOR covid vaccination, masks, mandates, isolation vs those AGAINST same...which one displays 'cultish' behavior ? According to John Juedes it's the former.

You appear to have very much developed the 'us' and 'them' mindset Twinks !! Why, may I ask, is that ? Is that perhaps because those who are against either the 'jab' or the 'mandate' to get it are opposed to your beliefs ? This is division, divisive tactics and many on here have escaped that type of attitude in a previous cult. Perhaps not 'everything' has been let go of ?The citizens are being divided into two camps...gee, almost like it was planned.

So was that professor of virology...the guy with children :)

Great news alright ! Able to skip the vaccine and just have the pill if the bodies defences get overwhelmed.

Depends on who is doing the peer reviewing....The Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine says it is overly flawed and the Lancet says for the most part it's a joke...read it for yourself... Peer review: a flawed process at the heart of science and journals (nih.gov)

So was Einstein :)

Yes, it's an ...opinion piece, often based on observation of reports, publications, first hand experience etc...the question for me is "would I be prepared to consider the opinion of an EXPERT in the VERY FIELD we are dicussing ? My answer would be YES (and especially as this medical expert does indeed have...children) I really wonder how many 'experts' in the field of virus immunology actually have children !

you appear to frequently use the phrase 'just an opinion piece'....when (as I said earlier post) it does not fit YOUR opinion, YOUR narrative....and you know MORE than these professionals and journalists ? shame on YOU !!

aaahhh...an opinion piece...by a more than qualified expert in THE field....but doesn't fit YOUR opinion, YOUR narrative...o.k. good one lol

"the sooner we all get on board we can......" perhaps it IS true, many pro covid vaxxers really motivated more by $$...back to work and other 'selfish' motivations ??