Allan

And when I think of the thousands who got born again and s.i.t. yes, Gods' involvement at least to an 'enth degree', probably not as much as leadership thought, think.

Then you better let Wordwolf know, he 'analyzed' that you were referring to the 70's, 80's. God had to have been involved in twi, at least(and read my words) to some enth degree because there were MANY blessings, healings etc.. and maybe not so much involved in twi(God) but BELIEVERS within twi. Why did evil happen to some ? Because they were too weak to say f**k off or at least, NO. And yes, I do know people that did that. What I would like to know is why we don't hear more from those people ?

I think they all had been at twig at some point !! In fact I think Elvis is still on lead program somewhere, had a problem hitchin' a ride back to hq !!

Wordwolf said ..So there are pagans, atheists, christians of every stamp that post here.. Thats fine, I'm sure we've all worked that out, but some of us have also worked out that they try to 'push' their beliefs as much as anyone. It's called 'debating'.

If they don't criticise folks then it's obviously not for some here !! Wordwolf,one can 'try' to defend what is said by the likes of Rascal by 'analyzing' figures of speech etc but one of the 'biggies' I look at when studying is.. remote and near context and..(scripture)BUILDUP !!

Wordwolf said.. happened in the 70's, 80's, so we're talking stuff that happened 25, 30 years ago ??!! Sorry, no wonder it was 'misconstrued' Hope those 'humane societies' are helping !! And one can tell by the 'tone' of the threads what Rascal and others think of God, Christianity, fellowships etc.. which is fine but just remember..this IS an 'open forum'.

If I have sorry,it's just that you 'appear' to post denigrating God and His Word and then 'appear' to duck and weave when 'pressed' on the reasons for saying what you did !!

Rascal..if thats' what you reallyyyy meant maybe you should have said 'NO' at the end of the thread ?

From page one of thread entitled 'praising or cursing' Rascal quote.."could God really be responsible' does He really deserve praise for such devastation wrought in His name ?" end quote Yeah, we're getting it now Mr.H, Cw, Linda Z, Rascal. We'll all start cursing God if that's what you're after !! Kinda reminds me of..did God reallyyyy say.. Now who was that ??

Page one of this thread..Rascal.."could God really be responsible, does He really deserve praise for such devastation wrought in His name"? end quote Aah, I get it now..did God reallyyy say..

..and your reasons for your opinions are becoming a 'little' bit shall we say..hard to swallow.

So Rascal..what is your true motivation for posting on the forum anyway, sorry, some of us are tending to believe it is for ©ulterior motives ?!

White Dove, this is one of the things I take issue with.."no truth taught in twi" !! Come on 'rascal' and some of you others, be honest and vent your true motives for posting some of the things you do !! And yes,Rascal has blamed, mocked God on her posts, keep it honest pllllease.

I really wonder how many people were a 'nasty piece of work' before they got involved in twi in the first place,whether they changed and after leaving 'reverted back' to their old man nature ??!!

No I don't defend twi at all,but I will reply if someone tries to lay blame on God whilst at the same time trying to purport a 'Christian' outlook. Hammeroni..did you call me Eliphaz ? Hey mate..I left all the personal name calling behind me in twitsville..maybe some people have more 'waybrain' than they would like to think !! As for sitting in an out-house.. If holding onto 'foundational Biblical truths' learnt means I sit in an out-house rather than a castle,I take that as a priviledge,I'm sure Jesus can relate to that !!

Well Rascal,contrary to what you would like to see happen, there will be many still with a deep love for God and the Bible who will leave and ENJOY continuing fellowship with MANY of the foundational truths learnt.

Rascal..I take offense at some things you say.."as WE sit in our little fellowships" etc.. You know very well YOU are not involved in any 'fellowship' groups. I really take offense because you think some of us are that 'dumb' to believe you that you have some sort of penchant for God but in reality sound determined to blaspheme Him any opportunity you get.

I bet he DOESN"T send it to 'Greasespot' !!

Kind of reminds me of Lots' wife who grieved over all her posessions she had to leave behind. Maybe she turned into a pillar of salt because the only other alternative would have been Lot being driven insane by her harping on about it years down the track ??!!

I agree it can take time to get over things, but 20years down the track ??!!

..and reading through GS posts let me say..there are some who left bitter and 'twisted',there are some who left and 'dissed' God and His Word,there are some here who never were involved in twi at all!! and there are some who are still into 'moving with the things of God', which one you will be is ENTIRELY up to you,just don't decide 'better to stay with the 'devil' you know' just because of some peoples OPINIONS. Bless you, Allan.

Oh..me thinks 'think fish' is just another recent arrival from the misdiagnosed agnostic society of perpetual salami beaters.

I have just realized something and that is that being an 'International' at campus and h.q. we probably felt differn't at things that went on as say compared to many of you who had to live in the 'midst' of it all. When we got back to our respective countries we had to deal with the .... in our own backyards as anyone reading my threads would have seen. For at times seeming 'insensitive' I sincerely apologise.(Must be the differn't brand of coffee I'm drinking !!) Having said that,Selina and I have no regrets having had sold our house to go 'in-res'. We learnt a lot, managed to avoid nearly all the .... going on in your guys backyards(twi) and are still utilizing a lot of the good stuff to keep serving God to the best of our ability. Bless you and LOVE YOU ALL !!

Rascal..sorry but you've quoted VP wrong, he never taught a prophet brings new light. I do wonder if some of you ever were in twi and if you were if anything ever sunk in and if it didn't what were you in it for ?!

I think the leadership/bot at twi are Bored, Spoilt,Nothing better to do,probably why they get off on 'manipulating' other peoples lives. Kind of reminds me of movies like 'Phone Booth' and that Robin Williams movie where he played a photo express developer !!