Allan

With the new 'appointments' to hq I don't think you will be waiting long for new scandals. An (un-named by me)international reverend who has been assigned there has a real 'weakness fur wimmin, oh yeahhhh..

I think MJ has some valid points and you have just said you gave your kids over to the State AFTER these bast***s were jailed..why ?? It is just that I know mums(sorry)moms who would fight and believe God big time to keep their kids and I do know some moms(through conselling)that tried to get rid of (dump) their kids onto others or welfare ?? Oakspear, Rascal..I get tired of the fact that you don't see the forums as a two-way dialogue, not everyone has to fully agree with you and your friends opinions ! French kissing breast fondling cocaine taking state welfare officers and nothing could be proven..? why didn't anyone want to listen to you at the time ?? Was it a conspiracy, everyone against you ??

The Jesus Christ of the gospels, the Jesus Christ of the church epistles and the Jesus Christ of the 'apocalypse' Jesus Christ the same yesterday, TODAY and and forever !!

I have serious reservations that you really only exist here because I perceive it in my mind !!- quote..Shirley Maclean (founder of "you only exist because I can see you") !!

I have read them and I just read them again and I think that those that were involved in the midst of it all should STILL be VERY involved in trying to bring it to some sort of 'Godly' conclusion.

I was a nice 'hardcase' guy before I got involved in twi,I was a nice 'hardcase' guy whilst in and I left still the nice 'hardcase' guy but with a lot more of the rightly divided Word.

I think the number of really nice people still in twi is/has diminished rapidly,the rapidly rising 'climate' of twi leads me to think the really nice people will at some point be heavily confronted and then hopefully they will do the right thing and jump ship with 'the good stuff'.

So Coolwaters lived with Mo..the plot thickens.. Were you aware of what was going on..what did you do to help ? Is there anything you can do now to help ?

Oh I get it..like the handle 'Oakspear' Thanks for the enlightenment !

Thanks for the answer Rascal,at least now it's out there and some of us can understand where you're coming from with some of your posts.

I am genuinely sorry for you Temple lady, whatever you think of me, but I tell you this, if you lived near me I would help you to win back your kids,considering as others have said that there are no extenuating circumstances on your part. I think if I remember rightly you are/were Mormon ? hence the name Templelady ? Did that have something to do with their outcome ? There was no putrid fruit from twi we allowed to get a grip on our lives,but we 'ran away' with the apples so to speak !!

People can say they are 'blessed and happy' but in my experience that can often be a 'cover' for loneliness, unsureness, bitterness etc.. I found s.i.t . alot helped me through much of that. I loved the 'surrendering' thread.The worship side of church really helps with that..

Bramble..agree with what you say and neither is it a forum solely for 'wiccans', 'pagans' etc !! Rascal..you are still dodging a simple question..so are you a christian ?

Maybe it was just dumping the arrogance part that God was after,(this is not finger pointing)..but so much of the truth taught in twi did tend to 'inflate' a lot of peoples egos.

Goey- you are definately off my Christmas card list. Rascal..I'm sorry, they are all saying you are a Christian, is that correct ?

GC-bless ya, I just 'stir the pot at times' It helps keep GS interesting and keeps the Diazbros and Cherished Childs of GS fame keepin' on comin' back !!

So whats a 'pinky' Oakspear (seeing as we seem to be into name calling now..geeesh) And could you please enlighten us as to what a 'Wiccan' believes, never know I might change Gods ??!!

Quoted from 'this is about the way forum/for new readers, posters' started by Wordwolf Bramble quote.."Rascal is as far as I know Christian, but you being around could steer her towards where I am, an 'anti witness'"

No..I'm responding because the thread was about s.i.t., I'm for it and others are against it. The against get their 'dander up' as much as anybody else and I'm not surprised given that Bramble for instance has 'come out' and said in another thread that they consider themselves an 'anti-witness' whatever the hell that means to a 'Wicca' ! You know..I guess that makes me a 'for-witness'??!

Yes, I still enjoy s.i.t. much, maybe thats because I'm still enjoying being involved in life 'as a christian'. No,learning 'how to' s.i.t. didn't 'seal it' for me at the time but it sure 'seals it for me now'. (It's o.k. have at it critics and flamers..I have my 'fire extinguisher' at the ready !!)

I don't think I've ever said non-Christians are evil but I might tend to think that someone who believes they are an 'anti-witness' has some serious 'spiritual issues' ?!

I still go with Romans 10:9,10 unequivocally( which I think means without a doubt !) Works for me.Nothing any man or woman says can be guarenteed but I do believe what the Bible says regarding life, death, eternity and all the bits in-between !

Agree to all of that as long as readers have an idea what kind of people are posting.. Maybe we could start off our posts like.."Hi, my name is Allan, I'm a Christian" or "Hi, my name is Rascal and I'm a Pagan" or "Hi, my name is Bramble and I'm a Wicca (witch), or "Hi, my name is Cool Waters and I'm a New-Ager" just thinking, it might help ??

It's funny reading people posting about Methodists, Lutherans, Greek Orthodox, Pentecostal churches etc..couldn't wear certain clothes,never heard the words 'born-again',weren't allowed or encouraged to s.i.t. etc.. and yet others posting about how much 'truth' is out there in these other churches !!

Rascal said about Speaking in tongues "so what" Well thats the kind of response I'd expect from you.I really doubt you were even in twi at all. Does anybody know you at all from there ?? This is after all an 'ex-way' forum isn't it ?!