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I notice even Wordwolf gets a bit 'vindictive' and 'accusatory' when the surface is 'scratched'! So much for a 'veneer' of 'wise aloofness' !!

I think its' pretty sad the way some of you feel the need to stroke each others hands whilst whispering words of encouragement. Ever heard the saying 'stand on your own two feet' ? Then maybe you won't 'attract' so much cr*p in life !!

Oh Lord Jesus..I thought it was o.k. to be a 'wicca'..to be a 'pagan' etc.. It was all t.w.i.s' fault.

I don't know..try JWs', LDS, Pagan rituals and sacrifices ??

Sorry..that quote was from Bramble (page 8)

"Satanists actually have a 'differn't' view of Satan than Christians do" !! ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Templelady..would you consider yourself a 'dramatic' person..you know..one who 'dramatisers' alot ?

Thankyou mj for not just talking about doing good for people but actually getting out there and doin' it !!

Diasbro..certainly not my intention to turn GS into a 'Word' forum, I wouldn't be that naive,but as stated, if people clearly show what 'angle' they are coming from when they post their comments, you know 'transparency' like they all say t.w.i. should have been doing, then I have no problem !

So Goey..whats wrong with just coming out and saying I'm a JW or Mormon etc.. At least lurkers can see and read your posts on topics like s.i.t. KNOWING what religion you have come from/gone back to etc..yes even 'wiccas' (although as you said..some don't want it known(sorry,don't profess) to be witches !! I just wonder what else (some) of you are 'hiding' ??

Which also makes me wonder if some of them were the type of people who needed 'group approval',the type who find it hard to stand on their own two feet but constantly need to feel like they 'fit in' and have people reassure them everythings o.k., stroke their foreheads a little bit and say "we're rooting for ya" etc..

The poll tells me that maybe half who 'were' Christians may have been involved in t.w.i. for the wrong reasons anyway ??

Wordwolf..why are you concerned about the Christians who still hold on to what they learnt in t.w.i. ? To put it in some of your guys 'poster language' (not quoting names) it's not really any of your freakin' business !! Is this forum anti-way 'practises' or 'doctrine' and whilst on that subject shouldn't the s.i.t. etc..views be in the 'doctrinal' section (for those that want to beat their heads against the walls !!)

I would like to invite the "goeys' and 'Rascals' to be more 'forthcoming' with what they believe personally 'faith-wise' My real intent has been to 'unmask' people for what they really 'hold to' not what they are portraying. As I said 'Rascal' made out she was a Christian. Goey was/is either Jehovah Witness, Mormon. Some of you are 'Wiccans' (witches) and pagans by your own admission. Now..that is your walk, but if you try to discredit my beliefs because of your agenda..then don't get upset if'n some of us want to 'defend the Faith'

I sympathise but I won't be made to feel guilty for what happened to some of the unfortunate ones in t.w.i. anymore than any of you feel guilty for the starving millions in Africa,oh yeah..that's our fault to.. Maybe stop 'navel gazing' and start 'outward focusing'.

Oakspear..instead of calling me 'buckwheat' can you shorten it to 'bucko'..I like that much better !!

WordWolf you should know better than to imply that just because some of us are blessed and better off for our time in (former t.w.i.) that by that we are defending VPW and other things that went on..that is not honest scholarship !!

Is MJ in a wheel chair ? What does that have to do with a person or are your 'true colors' starting to 'project through' temple lady.. Oh o.k. wait for the apology and the retraction !!

Can't speak for mj but we went through t.w.i. corps with 5 kids, all STILL happy and well adjusted,heck, now we're onto grandkids. I don't get 'your logic' either Rascal..therein do we bless God and curse God ?? That is the hallmark of what type of 'cool waters' flows from the fountain.

I just don't get that to some of you just about every evil thing that happens in the world somehow gets traced back to t.w.i. No way have I defended their evil actions just because myself and MANY others walked away with great truths. There is usually two sides to most stories ! Any 'innies' or 'lurkers' reading this, listen up.. You can leave t.w.i. a happy and well adjusted person and live an even more fulfilling life for you and your family. You will not die or have any more evil happen to you than the next joey on the street. Many of us left and still hold on to the truths learnt and are still moving forward with the things of God.

so do you feel better now Rascal.. What you just said about me was the most right on spiritual posting I have seen you do. My only question is are you so accurately describing me..or that little 'rascal' inside of you..

So Goey..when you say you lean more to the 'cessation theory' of s.i.t. you are saying you believe it died out with the apostles ? This is what Mormons, Jws' believe.

probably more for the 'doctrinal section' but the administrations in the Bible seem to be glaringly obvious unless one believes in the pre-existence of Jesus, the 'deity' of Jesus etc.. The Jehovah Witnesses believe Jesus was 'Michael the archangel'etc.. I still believe that 95% of the Bible is plain common horse sense (to quote someone else)

I don't want to 'dissitate' but can I um say ..to whom it was written and um..administrations and thingeys like that ?

Yeah, I still have a problem with the word 'hate' so....I dislike intensely those who hide behind or within t.w.i.s' structure/entity so as to enable them to continue their deviant ungodly unrighteous behavior because they know that in 'the world' brothers and uncles would be busting down their doors to exact some well deserved recompense ! I also have a theory that some of them actually believe that because they are 'so right on with the Word' and so 'gung ho' with it that they are 'allowed' to sin a little ??