Allan

new Zealand 35 down to about 15, Australia 27 down to about 9, leaders still leaving hmmmnnn

Thanks everybody for your thoughts and words.No, the wayfer bro-in-law didn't get to speak at the funeral, the family are well aware of twi.

I've known him since he was 14....I'll just leave it at that ! yes apparently him with the oirish guy directing

the wayfers actually went to go inside to eat with the family and were told to eat outside...and use the portaloos !! shoulda seen the look on their faces

yep, good old fashioned 'let's make the most of a bad situation'...and you know something ? In the 30 odd years I knew him, he hardly ever talked about it, never praised himself for doing what needed to be done and never once bad mouthed his parents.

thankyou Waysider ! My father-law was a tough old bast*&d. Both parents left when he was a teen and he helped his 17, yes 17, siblings stick together and survive in the pacific islands, no mean feat !! His inner man speaks volumes of his character :D

So anyways, my wife just attended her fathers funeral at which her brother, sister-in-law ( innies ), their country co-ord and a couple of other minions were present. Wifes other older brother who has been out/delivered for years, was invited/enticed to attend their sunday fellowship before flying home. He was talking afterwards to my wife and said the whole time there he felt...he was searching for the right word...my wife answered,'oppressed' ?. He said, "THAT'S the word" !! Nothing changes....then he mentioned that brother - in-law ( his brother ) is writing a book to present to the trustees detailing EVERYTHING that is wrong with 'the ministry' hahahahahahahahahahaha...this coming from a handful of the worst offenders when it comes to legalistic hard heartedness and abusers of God's people...oh the 'games people play lol. Mr. Linder, you better let Rosie know, there's a book coming her way, probably titled something like, oh I don't know..."The Blind leading the blind" :biglaugh:/> oh and btw bro-in-law, you may have heard the rumours, we're on 10 acres with guns ( purely for rabbits of course :biglaugh:/> ) ...they're correct. p.s. I will leave this up for a day or two fellow Gsérs

History repeats itself when evil is forgotten...never forget !!!

Yeah, I thought the same WW...too honest and apologizing to be him...and I think his grammar would be a bit better than that !

someone I know googled craig martindale twitter and it appears he has/had a twitter account

And of course the oirish git that was/is running new Zealand had a favourite pastime of recording any truth or dare interrogations...kind of like the FBI or something. The guys as nuts as Geer.

Just listened to a lady speaking about putting some of them in a glass of water and then observing what they break down into...this explains why kids are the way they are lol

Differn't at Indiana campus I guess, the Georges kids were wonderful, same as the Clapps, Niess's etc...

I agree entirely Chockful....I'm just saying that romans 10:9,10 Christianity is a lot more palpable to a lot more people when it's done in an auditorium or outdoor arena than behind the walls of a broken brick facade building with outdated decor :)

Thought for the day....I know VP was everything people express here (and probably worse )....but I cant help thinking that without the VP's and the Kenneth Copelands and Joel ( mr. plastic} Osteen and Joyce Meyers and yes, even the Benny ( am I still married ) Hinn's...whether Christianity today would be almost dead in the water...so droll and lifeless without these marketing gurus ?? I know VP rehashed BG Leonards work, but as someone pointed out, BG Leonard was no evangelist/marketer ! The people mentioned above make/made Gods' Word come alive for a lot of folks, something I think even the honourable Billy Graham would struggle to do today.

And I remember reading years ago that the Sanheddrin council could make exceptions to the 'married' rule, if the man in question was an exceptional figure....

Galen, I seem to remember awhile back in one of your posts you appeared to espouse the thought that it's o.k. for a guy to have multiple wives ? Just wondering if you still ascribe to that thinking...and is that one of the deciding factors in your going back to twi ? Just wondering, coz where I came from, the leadership there now appear to condone having 'concubines'.

so was it a rehash of Christian family & sex class ? mind you, most of us remember nothing about that one either lol

hahahahaha, very good

I think if Galen was to think about it....3 x God has attempted to deliver him from the clutches of malignant evil...be thankful Galen.I remember after we left/asked not to return ( in case we opened our mouths you know to the joe believers back in our country about the corps shennaigans ) we heard one 'story' about the 'joe believers' putting up a new fence for the country co-ord. on his property. Stinking hot day, whilst they toiled heartily, he and his arsesistant ( my bro-in-law btw ) sat in chairs sipping lemonade barking orders lol.Well,the country co-ord. had a bad back ya know !!

doesn't it say even more about the people still trying to cling to the flotsam and jetsam ( spelling ?)

well,we know some of them became adept liars or at best, experts at 'twisting'the truth, all in the name of protecting the 'ministry'.We'll have to catch up for an ale some time :) I heard some of their lies about us,all it did was solidify our decision to leave being the right one. I remember one time bumping into the oirish git in public and the look on his face as he frantically punched his mobile keys ( I presume he was calling for back up ??!! lol.) He looked so full of fear...but then that couldn't be right....could it...?? hahahahahaha

Good God people...we had ADULTERY going on @ Indiana campus family corps !! That's one of the reasons we left...the wife of one of the perpetrators was to told to quit whining about it...why, ? because her husbands parents were h.q. staff :) my wife & I decided if these were the standards, leadership wasn't for us lol

lol...same, I can't even remember the content, but I bet that's where a number of the mini-mogs got ideas in their heads from...fiery darts maybe ?? hmmmnnn.... Hiya twinky btw !!!!

And my point really, was that there are still a lot of 'b' grade ar$% wipes involved in twi ! just because the Galens and Johniams may have met them briefly at ROA or been part way through the corps with them doesn't necessarily make them an expert on how they áre' as a human being ! (with all due respect) beauty being in the eye of the beholder sort of thing.