Allan

The first red flag was going into family corps and seeing adultery take place on campus that was 'looked over' by leadership....exit...stage right ! Actually, I wonder if it was more a matter of so many of them having been in 'the Word' for so long that they...just didn't really care anymore ?

Yeah nah...they know how that kind of freethink goes down...like a plutonium balloon

Out and about, they were invited/sweet talked into going by another relative who is still involved...needless to say, once was enough lol

relatives of mine have recently been back to 'twig '....their conclusion was...it's not like it used to be...now it's DOUBLY boring, stale, lifeless and repetitious......

A goldfishes memory span is approx. 3 months

s'mores...another one of those 'bad' habits we foreigners picked up from you 'mericans lol

My apologies to Raf if he felt challenged by me simply because I stated something that is real to me and some others on this site. It's great, you have your opinion and I have mine. I did not intend to challenge your NOT speaking in tongues.:) As for the 'other' manifestations I 'opine' :) that where one has a group of people that genuinely love God with all their h,s,m,s you will see them evidenced as I myself have and I am sure others on the site have as well. L N B

And maybe I'll speak for those that did genuinely manifest tongues ! I knew it, they knew it...enunciated non-repetitive syllabic heavenly/earthly/ mixed tongues...whatever someone else wants to call it, including Jehovahs 'witnesses', tongues :)

sounds like that made your day exie !!

I think even the tongues may be suspect as 'malaka'is a greek curse meaning wanker !!

Reminds me of a girl we were in fellowship with years ago in New Zealand who lost a couple of babies in quick succession ( found out later it was due to genetic defects )....but during all the turmoil us others were told to give the couple some 'space' then nek minute we were all absolutely castigated for no being spiritually mature enough to go and comfort her ! In hindsight it was just the so-called clergyman freaking out over a situation he couldn't handle.

Thanks Choc, that's why I asked...no attempt at a 'derailment'at all !!

So does anyone think the Jesus hippie movement was a movement of/by God ?

I debated with a couple of Mormon missionaries once who were trying to convert a friend. Was told later, the young man rang his parents back in the u.s.a. ( something they're not meant to do whilst on their mission ) crying telling them he didn't believe anymore...should I feel bad about it ?

I don't think wierwille ever claimed to be a prophet ? But yeah, I think a lot of the stuff mentioned was because their mindset was to never open up with or confess any negatives, which of course became hysterically fanatical...and just not feasible, at least in an honest way.

where's the 'like' button ?!

Broken Arrow....Bingo !!

Definitely not anti-American sentiment !! I thank God for America nearly every day...on the other hand I'm wondering if not being able to take a bit of criticism is a cultural thing'?! seems pretty prolific with quite a few...yes I do know the story, I follow news (from around the WORLD )

Really, as someone a million miles away from England and U.S.A , yes it (seems )it is an American thing. Everything somehow needs to be dramatized ! Having lived in the States and a number of other countries for a time, it appears many get confused where the daytime soap operas end and reality begins. I'm all for telling your story but maybe let it be done as a genuine warning to others and bringing bad people to justice and not as a therapeutical/celebrity/money spinning exercize. Unwittingly that oftenly ends up quasi glorifying the crime !

I wasn't trying to infer anything really except show an example of how lowwww so called men of God can stoop !

I really hope he's NOT doing one of these !

Interesting tho WW...The new heaven and earth is said to have no more sun...so presumably there will be no more darkness either ? I also think at the gathering together a lot of things and questions probably will no longer matter ?!

where's the 'like' button ?