Allan

I remember the Foundational class we took in Auckland New Zealand in '89.....audio, with cards being held by someone up the front ( Hi Fi !!) lol...was a hoot watching the cards sloowwwlllyyy dip towards the floor as the card holder drifted in and out of consciousness, oblivious to the little 'ding' from the audio bell....

Wow...must have been decent size classes ??

Just wondering....was it really fun to stay at the YMCA....??

Neither I nor others have mentioned anything about threats real or implied of being 'booted off' GSC...and tbh it would hardly be a 'life changing' or devastating occurrence would it now :)....it was merely mentioned that there are posters on here who are very skewed and abrasive and insulting to others who post with a differn't view point to theirs...be honest now...GSC aint no 'all embracing' 'bipartisan' fest of forgiving disillusioned former cultists lol...and really, those particular posters should know better having lived through the abuse of twi.

A bit rich coming from a 'moderator' to say people ridiculing, mocking, attacking other posters will not be tolerated...what a joke ! I think of Oldsman, Mike and others who have been pilloried to the post office and back...this forum does indeed seem to be becoming as 'one eyed' and 'clicky' as twi ever was...just saying...

What happened ?...the same thing thats going to happen very shortly...His- story sure has a way of repeating itself at times huh :)

Ironic, I just get a very stern message from Modcat warning me of no more POLITICAL POSTS on this forum...log on and HELLO...politics politics politics... well at least this might LIVEN up the place hahahahahmmnnn As to the original posters question of whether Murica should adopt 'multi party' elections....Please Don't...it has been the bane of democracy here in Australia and New Zealand...Imagine a 'crooked' party doing backroom deals with an equally crooked party to get majority coalition. It's corrupt over there NOW without giving the regime in charge even more tools to weaponize.

2 Corinthians 10:5..casting down imaginations and every 'high thing' (vain reasonings and human logic) that exalts itself against the knowledge of God and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ... John 5:39 Search the scriptures for in them you think you have eternal life and they are they which testifies of me. (IMO) if one does not keep up with the present truth, eventually truth slips from ones grasp and 'first love' fades. Team the searching and re-searching the timeless truths in God's Word with spiritual truths and s.i.t. and (IMO) again, one will stay fervent with gospel. Raf, you've gone from JW to Pentecostal to back to JW and now to 'throw it all away ?? After tasting the goodness of God ?? After I was smart enough and spiritually attuned enough to kiss twi goodbye, I've kept up with teachings from Wayne Clapp, John Nessle and others including LCM as of late and I have so much new stuff and new old stuff that after 30 years I'm still convinced, excited and anticipating !

And yet Australias largest AOG church had young boys sexually abused by the founder until he was found out, stood down and then covered up by his son who then took over running the church...go figure.

Okayyy...so we're back to the "if you don't believe the 'trinity' you're a cult" ?...really ??

Ditto Mike...so much new light and understanding...loved Proverbs 21:16,17 explanation and the 'blessing in the new wine' of Isaiah 65:8...let alone the 'revelation' of Proverbs 30:18, 19...he still sounds 'grumpy' at times tho lol.

Whats the chance of having a poll regarding who chose to get the covid shot, encouraged others to get it, how they feel about it one and a half years after the fact. Would they do it again and those who decided against it ?

Last I heard (not that long ago) Australia has a couple of Million in the bank and former (and current) members have been trying to get their grubby little hands on it. I think thats why twi dug up the David and Bonnie Weekly 'corpses' and sent them there Lol

Interesting you mention Donnie Fugit. I'm pretty sure he gets a mention in the new movie coming out "The Jesus Revolution".....wonder who else may get a 'cameo role' ?

There is no 'new class' as far as I know, just teachings put out weekly that when i find time I listen to some (not all)...I even enquired about donating some finance and was turned down (interestingly GS was happy to take mine)

The same reason you feel compelled to have YOUR say on nothing in particular and everything in general.

Points 1-15 and 18-23 I believe are still very much valid and indeed from a personal point of view and in practical reality are extremely hard to refute.

I have to say (and I know it will rankle a number of posters here) BUT Craigs latest take and expansion on these scriptures is terrific !

The guys got a point..doesn't he ?? look at all the venom spewed at me over 'anti vax' stance...I guess history bears the truth on that one.

I've always been intrigued how Jesus referred to himself as 'the Vine'...when I think of a vine as opposed to a tree a vine moves, creeps, manoeuvres, goes around. Not much can get in its path and when something does, well, the vine just goes around, over or under, relentlessly moving and reaching out. Perhaps this is what Jesus meant when he said the gates of hell shall not prevail against him and the church.

I listen to Craigs teachings off and on and I have to say there are from time to time (imo) fantastically great things in them and even after a considerable amount of time in twi even some 'new light' (for my brain cells anyhoo) I was never at the receiving end of any 'face meltings' only a couple of humorous convos with the guy. Being in Australia I feel distantly safe enough to not get 'drawn into' any 'allegiance' or 'blind following' mentality.

I don't think anyone below trustee level gets much of anything...David and Bonnie Weekly were shipped out to Australia to 'get things moving again' lol...they must be late seventies ? and renting a small apartment...oh but the local 'believers' did rock up and bring a plate of home baked cookies to show appreciation for their 'sacrifice'...so sad.

Neither does it say Adam was "in the midst" ? Adam could have been 251 miles away :)

I'll put it back at you. IF you are a father (I don't know whether you are or not) and to have a beautiful, perfect child who would one day enable you to have an infinite number of same BUT you knew to have this you would also have a son (Adam) who would nearly screw things up...would you still go ahead and have that first child ?? I can only speak for myself and say YES !! As for Rafs question of WHY place the tree of knowledge of good and evil smack bang in the 'midst' of the garden ? Well, that just magnifies man's inquisitive and disobedient nature...doesn't it. "Here Adam, here's a WHOLE lotta f...ing garden and panoramic sights for you to ENJOY...BUT don't wander over to that hole in the ground 250 miles to the west lest ye fall in and hurt yourself." Where do you think man's eventually going to go ??

Agreed