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Thanks CC, I still can't find any real biblical authority for the trash they are pushing, even in their own work Just as JAL says prophecy is very biblical, this worthy of rear wiping work that allows the creepy crap that has lead to the destruction of marriages contains some bible and a lot of justification for leaders running rough shod over their followers. It's as devilish as it can be. Come on, one of the big things this bunch promoted was Jesus as the head and now they have degrees of prophets and have to keep long records of being accurate. What God joins together let no man (or possessed woman) separate. Clear simple bible there isn't it? Yeah they "solved" their problems ( cough cough) feel free to give free $$$$$$$ to them

But please remember when ever a great MOG has an affair it is because of those evil possessed women make them drop their pants and do the dirty deed. Just as JAL went from 0 to 1 to 16 because his eyes were closed when this happened and the spirits made him forget it happened,( kind of like coyote ugly, can't seem to recall why my arm is chewed off) just as it took the great research guru researching adultery to see the light (just like Loy, getting caught sucks)! Now just cause they can't even run their own home office and its not their fault they slipped and fell into spread legs doesn't mean they aren't more spiritual than you will ever be. Please send donations to keep this great "package" available! Oh and curse you Groucho, CES with a STFI doesn't promote that program any more; that is so "90's" dude, get with it!

I would like to offer my new book for a fair donation of $29.95 :wub: Cut My Cash Cow and My Lavish Lifestyle Reaches Critical Mass Then you'll understand the true crisis (Oh and I do dream in color)

OK how about I make ya wanna spiritually puke? ( If that can be done) I would like to look at their prophecy book but for the life of me can't see from what has been posted it has any value. Anyone wanna give that sick pup away?

HeHe, I was wondering how long a moderator could participate in a discussion in the wrong “place”. At what point does the drinking of poisons under the sink become the drinker’s responsibility and no longer the parents? Forgive me if this has been answered, frozen puter and moderator movement have slowed an already slow poster………..

Dr Venkman, what can we do?

I started to read an article from CES soon after 9/11 stating more died each year from drunk drivers than were killed in that attack. Didn't finish it and was reminded why I didn't follow the idiots when they ripped a big chunk of VP's work off and left.

Some one please get this uptown character in contact with Mike, as uptown is missing the mark if he/she isn't doing the famous hidden lost last teaching! Better get busy! You're not doing much if your not mastering the basics (barf icon here)

BTW, my friend's 85 year old Daddy says that after every meal he wants to light up and he quit over 30 years ago. He says he just wants to be a none smoker worse than a smoker.

Second holiday season smoke less for this former very heavy smoker. The first six months were hell and my mouth had to be filled with something every waking moment. All ready a fat man, I ballooned out even worse. I would wake with cravings and almost cold sweats in the middle of the night, I would wake reaching for the pack no longer there. But after the six month mark the cravings just seemed to very gradually drop off and the raids of weakness are now farther apart. I live with the reality that I can quit and am full aware one single lousy puff can put me back to my 2 pack plus a day junkie habit. Live with the occasional cravings or live with the knowledge a long life will mean the ever tagging along oxygen bottle? But even last night I dreamed ( no joke) of enjoying a full flavored filtered cigarette as I walked with a carton down a deserted street. Waking craving as I started to search for a pack, I came to myself and was once again thankful I am now one of the worse attitude none smokers in the world. Hey put that thing out this is a no smoking area! I truly enjoy my turn at being that obnoxious former smoker watching guests exiled to the cold outer limits to partake! I have become that which I always hated the worst, who knew it could be so much fun?

While Satori may have been the chosen one of our big daddy which laid hands on him in public and proclaimed Satori heir to the farm of poo-tang, we all know now it wasn't because of his special secret spiritual fantasies with the under age coeds, but rather big daddy's privates envy that got him the mantle. As big daddy said in private many times:" you can't get a bigger dick than Satori". Now word circulating on the street is that big daddy made a secret last incredible stop at Groucho's home on his way to POOP at his favorite bus drivers foreign stall and gripped Groucho and declared:" you are like me son, hung like a mouse; if Satori don't follow my missionary position as I the great big daddy has taught you all; you know what to do!"

Tzaia, Thanks for the response. I still think that the bringing this stuff to the light is quite the right thing to do. Honestly how in the world can any group that can't even keep its own office running possibly be responsible for a world wide ministry?

The prophet has tarantula poop in his snot!

Tzaia says: Do you agree with this Tzaia?This would have to mean that the posters that brought the evil deeds done behind closed doors and hidden from the vast majority of CES/STFI followers are the evil doers and the board and MG are the innocent victims of back-biting and tale-bearers. I am sure that is the story the board will stick to and the ever so worshiped research guy will be held high for getting the ministry through all the evil attacks of the adversary. Let's get a little "lock-box" going here also and make sure to teach the silence of the lambs to the flock, just shut-up and bleat in unison as we lead you to slaughter. Seems the bible with the back-biting and tale-bearer topics also talks about men loving to be in darkness and hate their deeds made manifest to to light of day. I would say anyone that considers the evil deed being brought forth to be manifest being the more evil deed calls evil good and good evil.

I became quite good friends with a man I worked with my first WOW year. He was extremely active in many anti-gang groups, nieghborhood watch, teaching firearms saftey and marksmanship. You see there were gangs of 8 to 12 year old kids that bagged and carried groceries of all things; to which his 60 year old wife refused one day. He found her gang raped and beaten to death with hammers. To quote him:" these were not children, they were mad-dogs and decent society can only do one thing with mad-dogs"

While I won't go looking for bangers to bust a cap in, I won't hesitate to accommodate if they mess with me or mine. I know all my family members sleep better since the huge influx of crime that parallels the same increase in illegals in my son's area was meet with a 40 auto for a birthday present.

For anyone to accept that feminism is the evil root of CES doctrine wouldn't they have to accept the personal prophecy doctrine? Has anyone bothered to back that doctrine up more than claiming they wrote a book on the subject and in passing claim it's biblical?

Do bad girls PM?

All the brats can't get along, so which one stomped off to "daddy" first. You just wait till daddy gets home and he'll tell you brats who is in charge! ( stomp feet here) And "daddy" loves being needed so badly because after being a single parent so long he truly misses being needed so badly by his adorable dear children. Just forget he raised them up and left special ones in charge. Now this would all be funny if it wasn't so pathetic! A man incapable of keeping a marriage together is ran to like the father figure that THE FATHER should be sought after. And what might possibly be the biggest practical and doctrinal error that lead to this? Oh heck no, personal prophecy is just the tip of the proverbial ice burg. But if you were to think along the lines of have no gods before me; lights might start to shine on the error. The only thing worse than the childish "my daddy can beat up your daddy" is my wife can out prophecy all you wimps

We are all just discussing John Lynn's favorite subject, John Lynn.

While JAL likes to point out how much he follows some proverbs I am reminded of a couple of my favorites, like Proverbs 3:5 & 6. I see a whole lot of JAL leaning to his own understanding and a whole lot of analyze and no indication God was involved in this whole decision making process. Just because you wrote a book doesn't make the subject shut, cut and dry right. If you bother to look you can see that the whole personal prophecy relies to heavily upon the desires of the one speaking. KAG liked JAL so he received the good words, E was out of grace with KAG so she heard the wrath of God stuff. So any of you great STFI supporters care to prove the doctrine is true? I have seen to much evil fruit for it to convince me to even look at a book, let alone pay any of my hard earned money to support it. Once again the Saints are answered with "Buy This Book" And Mr Lynn; you haven't done a single thing to make me want to let you know who I really am!

Thanks Abi,Dot and Grace. Now to the "E is not completely innocent in all this" crowd I would like to shout from the roof tops "NO SH!T SHERLOCK!!" This mentality and ploy worked extremely well for LCM and the leaders of TWI to cover their dark and dubious actions. It is always so easy to find fault and to rip the flesh from a wounded human when one wants to defend their organization and leaders above the heart and life of any individual. You know that "SO'N'SO" was M&A'd. OMG really??? I was a friend and never knew! Oh come on, the right Rev themselves confronted them and you remember how they farted during manifestations that one time 5 years ago and actually questioned the great bible research guy about his work! OMG I can't believe I was friends with such evil! Please anyone that went through such attacks as this woman and anyone that has been through a divorce without screwing up and making some dumb decisions please stand up. Still waiting.............

Baileys

So it seems that the boot applied swiftly to one couple is the answer to this lemon and God can make lemonade and all can once again quench their thirst. Some how I can't help but wonder if anyone that stood up and said from the very beginning this personal prophecy is wrong will some how make it to this council. I don't know about you but these councils get me all excited, after all it was a political move for a council to elect Jesus God and he wasn't even seeking the office. Perhaps more accurate will be that the doctrine wasn't so bad, just some bad practice by a couple of bad people. Just ignore the bad people got control while the rest of the board and followers seemed helpless until the proverbial crap hit the fan and had to be made public here. So, who was the wizard that brought the doctrine to the body and then at what point did it corrupt in the boards eyes? Did any of the board stand up and tell JAL he was going down the wrong freaking road? If not one stood and spoke for God then what makes you all so sure the right path can be found by the same bunch that either consented to the divorce or stood by silently and allowed it to happen. I am reminded of the time I left TWI before public knowledge of lawsuits and sexual misconduct only to be slapped in the face by some very obnoxious posters on Ex-Way sites in 99. You see all was fair and right and wonderful when VPW was then man, little did I know what the man did in his spare time to relax. Then I had to De-throne the Vicster and see that the whole tree was corrupt with some very special people associated with some wolves in sheep's clothing. Perhaps the years that CES has operated they lead no one to God, or His son; but despite the road they were on many built upon beautiful relationships with their Heavenly Father and their ever righteous perfect big Brother Jesus Christ. Perhaps CES/STFI has caused Jesus to book more time as the mediator between man and God than if they didn't lead the saints down the road of legalism just like TWI did. Had Jesus been the head that CES/STFI preached, would this road have been traveled?

I think it was about 5 years ago JAL spoke about the same words to my old TWI twig after they left and he got his foot in the door. When your not bitter and ready to move ahead you'll stand with us,