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21!!-----The first of many so-called "milestone" birthdays. ENJOY!

Groucho--------"It's like listening to a Firesign Theater album". Yep!-----Just another paisley sunrise.

That may be good advise for you garden party types but I'm a travelin' man. You know what I mean,Mary Lou? "It's cheaper to keep 'er"----------Buddy Guy!

I remember hearing these things taught in the AC in 1973. It seems that in the beginning all the spirits were subject to three seperate leaders: Lucifer---God's right hand man,the original bright and morning star. Gabriel---God's special messenger. Michael---his job was/is to stand for God's children and fight off anyone who attacks them (kind of like a big brother) Lucifer wanted to userp the throne,so to speak, and here are some general areas of scripture that delve into this: Ezekiel 28/ Isaiah 14/Gen. 3/Rev.12/Rev.22/I Cor.15. When his overthrow was thwarted, he was thrown out of heaven along with the angels under his command and these are the spirits for whom "Hell" is reserved(not people) Sorry this is so sketchy. That was along time ago.(1973 that is) Also taught was that the Devil was not omnipresent or all knowing and that he could not see the future hence there was a sense of urgency to his efforts to seek revenge on God by subjecting as many as he could to bow to his power.

Speaking of McLoughlin-----------Anybody heard his acoustic tribute to piano jazz giant Bill Evans titled "Time Remembered"? The title itself is shared by a classic Evans piece by that name. If you are a McLaughlin fan you will probably be overwhelmed by the brilliance of his acoustic work It is really a beautiful and soothing collection of some of Bill's best known pieces If,on the other hand,you are a Bill Evans "purist" you may find this one lacking some of the dark and brooding qualities so often associated with Bill Evans. We have some hard core Evans fans in our family so this one is good fodder for lively discussion. I,personally, am a fan of both Evans and McLaughlin so I highly recommend at least one listening from start to finish without any preconceived expectations. I believe Verve may have been the label that issued it about 10 or 12 years ago.

Many years ago I worked at a temp. job in a facility that received and processed coffee beans. The beans arrived from coastal ports via box cars and semi trucks. They were shipped in a raw or "green" stage. They were contained in burlap sacks that weighed ,if I remember correctly,135#. We worked in pairs to unload them. Each team,which consisted of 2 unloaders and a forklift driver,had to unload one box car or two semis per shift. Each unloader was issued a pair of baling hooks at the start of the shift and we swung bags onto pallets in a uniform rhythm until our shift was up. The baling hooks make leather gloves a neccessity. From there the beans(which looked much like soy beans) were put through a mass production process of roasting and grinding. The longer they roasted, the more oil was forced from the bean and hence a darker,richer roast. This phase was very highly controlled and subject to constant re-"tweeking" so it is hard for me to understand why someone would want to attempt it at home. Perhaps the truly discerning palate can tell the difference,but I suspect much of the hoopla is hyped much like the idea that "sweet corn must be eaten the same day it is picked".That's another funny story for yet another time. As for me: I like it hot,black,strong and freshly brewed.(and shared with good friends.)

He should be thankful it was a paperback. Those big hard bound editions could leave a heck of lump on a guy's noggin.

Don't be ashamed or afraid to seek professional counseling if you feel it will help. I know the negative things TWI used to say about such help. Things like "it's asking the adversary for advise" or "remember how the Devil Tricked Eve",etc. In my opinion, they were afraid people would emerge from their mind controlling fog and start to think logically and for themselves. That and,of course, if you spend money on couselling you will have less to abs to TWI. Thirty four years of hearing God's Word,even when you discount the wrongly divided stuff, ought to be more than enough to counter anything the adversary might "supposedly" throw in your path in a couple of couselling sessions wouldn't you think?

That would be wonderously,wonderfully wonderful. Oh sorry, that was supposed to go on another thread!!

Oak-------Any memorable moments during the Clarke interview? Was he still in good health at that time? Man! The guy was a monster when it came to tone and expression. I understand from the guys on harp-l that there is some newly released material available such as a live in Germany cd and a dvd. I think the dvd is a duplication of the vhs that was released couple of years ago but I'm not certain. I have the vhs and there are some amazing guitar players featured who cut their teeth in his band including Liz Claiborn's son, Alex Schultz as well as Jr. Watson and Johnny Marx. "Got a big fat mama and she calls me lollipop When she gets to lovin' She just don't know when to stop"-----------Bill Clarke Also there is a guy making a name for himself(finally) that captures a lot of that Bill Clarke sound. His name is Mitch Kashmar and is well worth checking out.

Kathy---------I think you did an admirable job of conveying your thoughts. Speaking of Buddy Guy-----You probably know he and Jr. Wells had an on again/off again musical partnership for close to thirty years. Though they bantered back and forth like an old married couple, I think a part of Buddy felt a void the day Jr. passed. I was in chicago the day they buried Jr.(on a totally unrelated trip) and there was a great sense of loss in the city. There must have been 250 cars in the procession. Buddy's last couple of projects seem to indicate he is once again in top notch form and ready to carry on . On his "Sweet Tea" album he sang the lyric:"I'm an old man,I can't do the things I used to do". Well, don't you believe it. Not only can he do what he used to do, he does it better than ever. He's one of those cats you have to enjoy while you can 'cause the clock keeps tickin'.

Heartman----------You may be thinking of Phil. 4:6 Be careful(anxious) for nothing: but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests(petitions) be known unto God. According to The Merriam and Webster Dictionary,supplication is to ask in a way that is both earnest(intensely serious) and humble(not proud or haughty). It's pretty hard to be humble and tell God how to do His job all at the same time.The red curtain example is ludicrous because it is predetermining for God how he should do His job of finding the best available apartment or house or whatever the example was. VPW strung together a whole slew of scriptures that can be found using a concordance to support his claim that we controlled how God would bless us by using the (non-biblical) "power of believing" And that we had already been granted these requests but simply had to lay claim to them to receive them. Quite a few of the scriptures used can be found in Ephesians. Looking at some of these teachings in retrospect, it appears to me they were simply a ploy to degrade other religions for reciting The Lord's Prayer and thus create an attitude of elitism. With that being said,let me just say that God certainly can and does answer prayers but to tell Him how to do His job is,In fact,limiting him which is contrary to what was supposedly being taught in those PFAL examples.

Hey! dmiller------------My harmonicas don't have dots either. True, they have little stamped numbers, but who would ever look at them in the middle of a riff? In fact, some guys like Paul Butterfield and William Clarke ignored the numbers completely and were content to play upside down.(The instrument, not the player.) Heck! Sonny Boy II used to put one in his mouth like a cigar and still play things I can't figure out,though I'm sure that in itself is no guarrantee of complexity. Ever listen to any Yank Rachel or some of the early "string band" blues groups? Mando. had a huge presence in these early groups and where you draw the line between them, bluegrass, and blues can often be a mighty fine line, indeed. Fiddle and banjo were quiite popular in early blues as well. Rich DelGrasso seems to be doing his part to bring the two a little closer together again. It's all good music, so how come we have to put it in little boxes with a genre label attached to it?

Ironic ,isn't it, that the man generally heralded as discovering this country spoke,of all things, Spanish. In fact, by the time early sessions of congress were being held, serious consideration was given to conducting sessions in German as well as English since that language was so widely spoken. More to the topic,though, A quick Google of 15th & 16th century Spain unearths a mother lode of information on life and arts of that time in Spain.

I remember reading similar articles about TWI during my time in the organization.I felt sure the authors were missing the "big picture".After all, we had access to information that no one had known for 2,000 years.(Or so we thought) And then,of course, there was the teaching in PFAL that personal downfall starts with considering what is being said, just like Eve considered what the Devil said. All the while, a small still voice was saying"You MUST stop and consider what is being said." Add to that the admonition to put aside secular materials and abandon those who would not get onboard. In my opinion, much of what determined whether a person would stay or leave(also derogitorily called "cop out") was put forth in those particular sessions. Common sense and logic dictate that one consider what is being said. Furthermore, common sense and logic suggest that isolation from ones' emotional ties and from the reality of the world around us is not a healthy approach to living and interacting in this world we all share. I remember being taught that the word "selah" meant "consider what I say". I have not researched the accurracy of that teaching, but I'm pretty sure it's still good advise to consider what is being said regardless of what may have been taught about the downfall of Mankind or promises of an elite status amongst our fellow man. SELAH

Warren----------When I first came to GSC,I felt guilty and responsible for things that had happened in my life since leaving TWI. After all, we were taught that our believing is what governed our destinies. We were taught in TWI that terrible things would happen to us and our loved ones if we left the "fold". Warren, when you and I left TWI, we were not leaving "the fold" or "the household of GOD", we left a mind controlling cult. It was/ is just another one of countless cults that exist in this world we live in. It was a hard pill to swallow that I had simply been duped but swallow it I did. GOD will never punish you for leaving an abusive and manipulative organization no matter how convincing their teachings might have been. Oh sure, there's some whining that goes on but there is awhole lot more if you just look around a bit. Looking at some of the "New Arrival" stuff and looking at some of the historical material helped me to start to put it into perspective Now I hang around for some of the fun stuff like "Name That Tune" and "Just Plain Silly". Well, I suppose I could have just said"Welcome to GSC" so I will. Welcome to GSC!!

Tap-----Tap-----Tap Is this thing turned on?

Kathy I have not been following the news very closely today but from the bits and pieces I've seen it is indeed a sad event. The company I work for has a fairly large Amish clientele. I stopped by my daughter's house the other day. I just needed to use the phone. My grandbaby answered the door And said"Grandaddy, ain't nobody home." You're Damn Right I've got the Blues!----------Buddy Guy

And didn't we all know someone who reminded us of Eddie Haskel? "My, that certainly is a lovely dress Mrs. Clever."

"Only the names have been changed to protect the---umm-----umm--------well anyway, the names have been changed."

Not all terrorists are easily recognizable by their physical appearance. Consider the Oklahoma City bombers, Mcvey and Nichols. Would it make sense to bomb their hometowns"just in case"? That question is ,of course, rhetorical.

Sharon-------------That's close enough for the kids I hang out with. It's actually "Nashville Cats" by Lovin' Spoonful, John Sebastian's tongue in cheek salute to the business side of the music industry. Anyway-----"Just glad I had a chance to say a word about the music and the mothers from Nashville." Me thinkest thou art NEXT!!

I was just 13,you might say I was a musical proverbial knee high When I heard a couple new soundin'tunes on the tubes And they blasted me sky high And the record man said every one is a yellow Sun Record from nashville And up north there ain't nobody buys 'em and I said "But I will!"

George-----------Bertha Butt said "I'll sock it to ya,daddy" to THE TROGALADYTE(sp?). There was a follow- up called BERTHA BUTTS BOOGIE.I may have to disqualify myself as I have no idea who the artist is but I know he did a whole bunch of other songs that followed this same style. Oh. Did I mention she has a couple of sisters?

My Mommy says lying is a sin! And that's the truth!