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I quit a 2 pack per day habit 23 years ago. Here is some advise that people gave me that helped: 1. decide on a " quit date" that coincides with a time when you are exposed to lower levels of stress and the freedom to partake of other activities. In other words, don't try to quit Monday morning at the start of the week when stress is high and you can't take a walk outside if you need to. 2. Don't tell yourself you are quitting FOREVER. In your mind, it will seem like an impossible task. Instead, just quit for one day. Not only is it easier to achieve a one day goal than a lifetime goal, but in the event you should not succeed, you have only missed the mark for one day. Tomorrow is a whole new ball game and a chance to give it a fresh try. 3. If one day seems too long, vow to yourself you will not have one before lunch. If you make it that far, vow that you won't have one until evening, and so on. If you fail to meet that goal there is always tomorrow. DON'T condemn yourself. You only failed to meet one small goal. The really extreme physical craving only lasted about 5 days for me and after that it seemed to be more of a mental craving. The mental cravings subside pretty quickly compared to the physical. I had mental cravings for about 5 years off and on but it becomes easier and easier to resist them. Nowadays it never even crosses my mind to have a cigarette and even discussions like this don't evoke any sort of desire to have one. Kudos, Linda. It does get easier. It just takes time.

My parents made tons of friends who remained true friends long after they all left TWI. I think their generation had/has a deep understanding of what friendship is all about. I suppose living through The Great Depression and WWII provided many unsolicated lessons that most of us(including myself) will never fully comprehend. Life is short. This ain't no dress rehearsal.

Is it "Row,Row,Row Your Boat"?

Hmmmmm? Was that"ahead of your time" or " a 'head' of your time"? Well, it WAS the dawning of the age of Aquarius, dontcha know!

In the absense of electronics, here's a cool little tuning "trick" that works for bass. 1. Tune the "a" string to a known constant such as the keyboard 2. Chime a harmonic on the 5th fret of the "a" string and let it ring 3. While that string is ringing, chime a harmonic on the 7th fret of "d" string At this point note any oscillation between the two and eliminate it by correcting the "d" sting (since you already know the "a" string is your constant) 4. Next, do the same with the 7th fret of the "d" string and the 14th fret of the "g" string 5. Lastly, repeat using the 5th fret of the "e" string and the7th fret of the "a" string The idea is not to compare the sound of the notes but to eliminate any "oscillation".

Soggie-----------What part of Ohio?( I'm smack dab in the middle)

I kept thinking I had left something out and then it hit me: Leather soled shoes. When I was 13, all I wanted for Christmas was a pair of leather soled "engineer boots". There under the tree that year was a Red Ryder BB gun. No! Wait! I'm confusing movie fantasy with real life. There under the tree was a brand spankin' new pair of Engineer boots. It was one of those Christmases that lives forever in your memory. If my folks had any idea I needed them to skitch, I doubt they would have bought them. Since skitchin' was best done under the cover of darkness, we needed a daytime activity as well. Thus, "cannonballing" was invented. To cannonball, one needed only to find a sledding hill that had become too icy from overuse. Starting from as far back as we could, we would run full speed to the crest of the hill. At that point we would leap into the air and land on the downward slope just as we tucked tightly into the "cannonball" position. There were no manhole covers or dry spots but usually plenty of ruts and rocks. And to think that all you really needed was a good pair of Engineer boots and a bit of a daredevil attitude.

NP-------It seems you may have misunderstood the essence of my post. My point was that if a person is fond of a particular section of the PFAL class such as "four crucified" or "figures of speech" and so on, why not simply look at the sources from which these portions were gleaned? References to direct interested parties toward the originating sources are abundant here at the Cafe. My apologies for not stating this in a clearer fashion originally.

What puzzles me is this: Why,if people are fond of the "academic" aspects of PFAL, they don't simply go to the sources from which VPW conveniently lifted them? Those sources can be found right here at GSC if one is so inclined to do a little research. Food for thought.

"Skitching is-----" Oh, wait. Are all the youngsters out of the room?( Wouldn't want to plant any ideas) All clear? Good. Let's begin. The year is 1962. It's been snowing off and on for weeks. The snow plows have long since stopped trying to expose the bare pavement and are content to leave the streets with a thin layer of ice. It's way past sunset and the street light at the corner is burned out. We wait anxiously in the bushes beside Mrs. Finklefarkles' front porch. Suddenly, a lone car approaches the stop sign at the corner and dutifully comes to a halt. As it resumes its journey , we slip stealthfully from the bushes and squat down out of view and grab hold of the bumper. We "skitch" behind for as long as we are able.( though as mstar1 pointed out, one must always be on the lookout for manhole covers and dry spots. )It became somewhat of a skill,actually, to be able to feel the dry spots and simultaneously stretch out and let go. As we became of driving age ourselves, the game escaladed considerably but there may be young 'uns lurking about so you will have to just imagine how it evolved. O.K.----With that out of the way, it's safe once again for the youngsters to come back into the room.

I have no idea what the dream means but the thought of someone other than an old guy like me knowing about "skitchin'" is really kinda scary. Shall we take a poll of how many "skitchers" there are at GSC?(or ex-" skitchers")

Ummm------This foot washing class ------Is it offered at UT? :blink:

There is a BBQ joint near Cinncinati named Burbanks Real Barbecue. You can buy T-shirts and ball caps there that say"I got my pork pulled at Burbanks". Huh? Oh yeah. Pressure cookers. Nope. Don't know how to use them but they sure preserve alot of flavor and juiciness. I've heard they cut cooking time as well.

Would that be a reference to a touch down?

This Note's For You---------Neil Young Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground Rain gray town known for its sound In places small faces abound

dmiller I don't want to stray too far from the topic at hand(J.E. Stiles,etc.) so I will try to be brief. There seems to be some degree of misunderstanding of "public domain". When a work is in public domain, no one can claim ownership of said work. Take"Mary Had A Little Lamb", for example. You can not copyright this song because it is in PD. You can,however devise your own version and copyright your recording of said song. Stevie Ray Vaughn did this with "Mary Had A Little Lamb". You, too, can record this same song in your own version and copyright that recording. Now, your songs are not truly in the public domain because someone could ,in fact, copyright them and claim ownership. While I understand that you would be delighted to have someone think highly enough of one of your works that they would choose to use it, I doubt it would please you to find someone had been granted a copyright and declared the legal owner. This would take on even greater importance if they then used the work in a manner you strongly disagreed with. I don't claim to be any kind of expert on this subject but I think your best course of action would be to obtain copyrights. If you then choose to allow people to freely use your material, it is being done because you gave permission not because someone took liberty with your creativity.

Back in the late '60's I wrote tons of music, most of which is now out of style and dated. I still have the copyright certificates. Because copyright law at that time allowed me to claim ownership for a limited time of 28 years, these songs have long since entered public domain. If someone wanted to use this music I would be thrilled. If, on the other hand, they wanted to not only use it but also claim authorship, I would be NOT thrilled. Formal copyrights are simply one avenue of proving ones' claim to authorship. Just because Stiles did not have formal copyright certificates on this work does not mean it was "up for grabs". It simply means Stiles had one less avenue to prove authorship if he desired to do so. Accessability is also a factor in proving authorship. In other words, if someone in New Zealand claimed to have coincidentally written the same song I did in America, whether or not they had accessability to my work would be a factor that would come into play in proving authorship. I think it is clear that VPW had access to much of the work he claimed to be his own, including that of Stiles. If you want to use my music, you need only ask but don't look for loopholes that will allow you to claim authorship and for goodness sake don't say God gave it to you.

"I think there aren't many folks here who remember the original song." Dooj, are you saying that they are too young to have heard it or just too dang old to remember that far back?

OFM---------Remember the old joke with the Camel pack? You hand someone the pack and ask them where they would stay if a sand storm comes up. They usually comment about taking shelter behind the pyramids or palms or the camel itself. At that point you take the pack back, flip it over and say "I'd just go around the corner and stay at the Taj Mahal."( which is pictured on the back side). Good to hear from you, Smokey. OK, back to health tips.

I had an opportunity to pick up an Epiphone Viola Bass at a really good price so I grabbed it. I know it "ain't no Hofner" but I really like it. It has a short scale(30.5) and a 1.65 nut. It's semi hollow body so it is very light and I can sit and play it without having to plug in. It came with flat wound strings and when I plugged it in, I really liked the warm tone it has. It's much more inviting than my Squire P-Bass. Blues harp is still where my heart is at but I suspect I'll find myself hoisting this new(to me) bass over my shoulder frequently. If I ever get to a point where I can post pics, I'll post it along with a shot of my buddys' Micro Frets Spacetone. It's a green sort of sunburst color. I think it was called Martian Sunrise or something like that. They are also very light weight. Funny how you don't think about weight and neck size so much until the years start adding up and work starts to take its toll on the hands and wrists.

More lyrics I got a good reason for loving you. It's an old fashioned sign.

It seems like sometimes people want to put VPW on some kind of lofty pedestal and find some profound wisdom in his words and actions. (Why in session three at exactly the 7 minute and 7 second mark did he scratch his nose 3 times with his right hand? Was he giving us some privleged signal alerting us to some deep truth? )WAKE UP! No one wants to admit they have been conned, but that is what happened to us. I work with someone who was involved with a cult I had never heard of at about the same time I was involved with TWI. We compared notes on several occasions and the similarities between the two were astoundingly similar. Somehow even if we accept that The Way was a cult we want to think it was superior to other cults. Maybe VP started out with good intentions,I don't know, but for a long, long time he lived the life of a con-man and we were the willing suckers. There are some people who will never simply accept that they were flim-flammed and exalting VPW makes it easier to hold onto that belief.

I'm not sure if these words are 100% correct but this is how I always heard them: I remember once, hearin' the old" folks sayin'" "Love's an ageless old rhyme." Now a days ya know the sayin' depends so much on The kinda woman that you find. Intertwining AND overlapping in play! ps-----Cletus(that's his name) says "You old folks sure gotta lotta "sayin's".

Almost as bad were the "ministering" sessions that listed every known part or function of the human body. " And Father God I just thank you at this time that all toe nail fungus will completely disappear and the disgusting halitosis will just vanish immediately. And Father may all flatulance cease right now in the name of Jesus Christ."

Buffalo Springfield---------Not too sure on the title----"Hello, Mr. Soul"? Intertwining is Neil Young. Is the title correct? edit: to add Stephen Stills to intertwining.