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Watered Garden Since we both seem to remember this teaching, I'm wondering if it might not have been at a Fellowlaborer Night. It might have been Howie Y. who taught this. (I'll say this much, at least Howie knew how to hold an audience spellbound. )What bothers me most,though, is that I was sure something other than spoken word was used to "document" this event.

Root location: A tangled structure that thrives underground and keeps its lesser members in the dark.

Remember Rich Hall from SNL? He used to use made up words that he referred to as "snigglets". My 2 favorites were 1. Expresshole A person who gets in the "10 items or less" line with 20 items. 2. Yinkle Someone with a really obvious and grotesque "combover".

Bumpy I'm not sure what you mean when you say"This is definitely going to go down easily." so put that on the back burner. I read an article today in the local newspaper about a gentleman who suffers PTSD from a combat related experience he had in Viet Nam. There are some people who would say" It was 40 years ago, get over it." I'm sure he would be quite relieved it it were only that easy. In TWI we were conditioned (This is not the same thing as merely being taught) to close our minds to even considering anything that did not line up with TWI doctrine. They told us to examine and "research" any variant thought using a criteria that they(TWI) sanctioned. Further, it was a widely held belief, due to teaching and conditioning, that to leave the safety of the organization was an open invitation for the Devil to declare open season on any who did so. I know someone, who upon severing ties with TWI, lost two children in terrible accidents. Do you suppose they possibly felt that somehow these actions caused this travesty? I can't tell you because I can't read minds. I can tell you,however, that it was woven into the conditioning of "Waybrain" to make either a conscious or subconscious causitive connection. They lost those kids because sometimes life just isn't fair not because they severed ties with an organization that was nothing more than a cult. The logic behind it is easy to understand but it's a bit like telling that Nam Vet " just get over it." Now back to that original statement. What did you mean by "this is definitely going to go down easily."?

And lest we should forget, there is that infectious phrase that ChattyKathy has bestowed upon us: "Poop On A Stick!" No pronunciation guide, no current and obsolete usage or example of usage in a sentence, Just--------------------------Poop On A Stick!---------------------------

I gotta side with Groucho on "Basic Keys To Research". I mean really, did we NEED to know that Bourgois typeface is 9 points large and that a point is 1/72th of an inch? (I only know because I'm looking at my syllabus.) And how about those emphatic connectives like"indeed, only, this, these,therein,thereby,hereby and herein"? I'd like to say they're all Greek to me except that they happen to be ,well,you know------ENGLISH! Likewise "What is the 'wherefor' there for?" It was really just a bunch of made-up gobble dee goop that may have had some merit in an English Literature class but was,for the most part, useless in terms of application to "researching" scripture. On the other hand, it was an awsome opportunity to zone out and replay King Crimson songs in my head!

Bumpy------I don't know if you were asking "What's a poser?" rhetorically or not but I'll answer anyway. -------A new kid shows up at the skateboard park wearing the same type of shoes, pants, etc. as the veteran "thrashers". He has a really cool skateboard with high quality wheels, etc. Then he starts to skate. Lo and behold, skating skills seem to be the one thing he is missing. He is only "posing" as a skater. People here can relate to each other without having to explain a bunch of detail of what they have endured, unless, of course, by explaining they are confirming similarities. I personally left TWI many years ago and yet I feel a common bond with many here because we endured many of the same types of experiences, not the least of which was living a life that was governed by mind control. It would be nutso for me to try to explain some of what goes through my head to someone who has no idea what it must be like to live in a commune for three years and have almost every minute of your time controlled and to be taught that it is wrong to even "consider" that something might be amiss; taught that leaving could be like initiating a life or death scenario for not only yourself but for your family and loved ones. Perhaps people would be a bit more receptive if you would give a little background information. It doesn't have to be too personal but it should at least show a willingness to find out what others have experienced. Oh, Welcome to GSC.

That's plenty close enough for the kids that I hang out with. Lay it on us GSG!!

Oh, you got me where you want me I ain't nothin' but your fool You treated me mean Oh, you treated me cruel.

When I was a kid, we always had lots'o snow every winter and everyone shoveled their walk. Now I live somewhere that doesn't have anywhere near as much snow and almost no one on my street shovels-------except for me. I feel like I have forsaken some sort of sacred duty if my walk goes unshoveled for any length of time.

"My Girl Bill"------Jim Stafford Very clever lyrics and quite controversial for that era, even though the story resolves itself in a comical fashion.

Last I heard BB has been released and is recovering from what seems to have been a nasty bout of flu. On the blues channel on XM(Bluesville 74), they call him The Mayor of Bluesville. Pretty fitting, don'tcha think? I think to really appreciate BB you have to listen to some of his really early stuff when he still played in a style that was heavily influenced by his role model, T-Bone Walker. Interestingly, Duke Robillard( who has been around the block quite a few times himself) recently did a tribute tune to some of his influences("Bluesarama" I think it's called but I'm not sure.) He goes around the circle of fifths and at each new key he pays homage to a different artist. Most of them he replicates quite well but when he gets to BB King, the signature high note pull-off is conspicuously missing. I'm not sure what that is all about. BB is (from interviews I've listened to) a deeply spiritual and humble man who is willing to give of himself to help others. I wish him a speedy recovery and will keep him in my prayers. Coolchef-----I sang baritone in a quartet(Gospel, not barbershop) a long time ago. We sang at ROA and SNS and it was a lot of fun. If I can find any info that would be helpful I will post it here. Turn your radio on(turn your radio on) Oh yes, and listen to the music in the air. Turn your radio on. Turn your radio on.

Did you mean to say"Can there ONLY be 96 pages about guitars?" Give it some time. We're just warming up. "uno, dos, 1,2, tres, quatro---------!

Anybody remember "Liars Club". It was a game show where each member of the panel would produce a story or fact and the contestant would have to decide which was true and which was false. Honest, I'm not making this up. A friend of mine knew a guy who worked on the stage crew. :unsure:

Session Seven That was the pivotal point in accepting or not accepting what was being dealt out. It allowed for one to put a lock on independent thought and throw away the key without even realizing the exit door seemed to have vanished. Without session7 and its' invitation to mind control, the rest of the class would have been like just so many Sunday School lessons. Exciting at first and then fading with time as independent thought weighed the overall significance of one particular lesson over another.

Well, we did, after all , refer to ourselves as --AHEM--"believers". There is nothing wrong with ASKING God for red drapes or a red Corvette or a Red Rider BB gun if that's what floats your boat. And I'm not talking about maintaining a positive mental outlook either. There have been studies that have shown that a negative attitude can generate undesirable chemical and physiological changes in the human body. Likewise, a positive attitude can bolster the bodys' resiliance and ability to heal itself. What is in error, is the practise of thinking that "believing" can be used as some sort of magical catalyst to bring our needs and greeds into fruition. We may ASK God for specifics, but it is foolishness to try to limit His ability to answer our prayers by setting man made limitations. As to it being a "law": That's just a contrived catch phrase that has no actual scriptural basis.

Nah. It would have been posted in "Doctrinal" if that were the case.

"Will racism ever end?" Honestly, I don't think it will. It goes way beyond the typical "black and white" conflict that goes on here in the USA. It's what drives the Suni/Shiite conflict in Iraq. It's what drives the Israeli/ Palestinian conflict---and on and on. It's basic human nature not to like everybody(especially those who are perceived to be some sort of threat.) That's the point at which a person must decide whether or not they want to rise above their emotion and make a conscious effort to treat everyone with fairness and respect. As to the MLK festivities, the day was never set aside as a day to have sales on radial tires or throw parties. It was originally intended to be a day to dwell on the principles he advocated. (Says he, as he steps down from his soapbox.)

def59-------yes, I think it was, as you stated, Masada. It was so many years ago I don't remember the details. I am certain,though, that I heard this teaching in TWI. I guess it just goes to show how gullible(sp?) I must have been to accept this without scriptural references. I heard this teaching at some event that had limited attendance such as the AC or FL rather than at a function open to the general TWI populace.

Some one at work told me that, upon telling a young niece something that seemed incredulous, the niece remarked,"Don't be 'dickless'." Maybe that belongs on "Silly things kids say".

Of course, it would have been possible for them to have said" No thank you, put this expendature toward abundant sharing." YEAH, Riiiight! But then again, they would have won either way. Sorry. I guess that was a bit off topic.

Geeze, I have to learn to type faster. You guys posted right past me. I used to be able to type 200 words per minute before the terrible submarine accident. Oops!( I've been given directives not to acknowledge it)

Fascinating subject I did some research on this subject when I was working as a covert agent for the CIA But seriously, yes, everything I've seen on this (Which is not much) suggests that they actually believe they are telling the truth. I suppose that only adds to the illusion of their honesty. I think there is even some evidence that there are physical abnormalities present in their brains. WordWolf , in one of his posts, referred to a practise they partake of called "confabulation" where they invent scenarios (fictional) that support their claims. Dramduie consumption has been shown to be a causative factor. :) OK-- Now maybe at this point, someone who actually has some knowledge in this area will chime in.

Skyrider I remember that healing session at ROA. I think it was in 1973. It was the year that The Rock came right after The Advanced Class. VPW announced that anyone needing healing was to come to the front. Then he made a call for all AC grads to come to the front as well and find someone to minister to. I did not participate because I felt that God would tell me himself if he wanted me to and that part was not for any man to decide. I did not see any great healings but did "hear" someone had thrown away their crutches. Afterwards I had very conflicted feelings concerning my decision not to participate. Did God tell me not to participate? Did God tell me but I wasn't listening? Did I have doubts about the whole scenario? In short, I came away feeling I had done the wrong thing and had let God down. A couple of years later, a friend who desperately needed a healing, came to the ROA in hopes of finding one. Instead, he passed away in the motel. I remember thinking to myself that if his healing was meant to be, that God would surely have had plenty of candidates to pick from all assembled in one place. To me, HE was the sermon because he was the one who made the effort to act on his faith. I think that many times "we" saw some of these people who needed true healings as some sort of trophy we could hold up and say"Look what God can do!." It was a self centered and selfish way to think and I'm sorry that I contributed to it.

Uh Oh! Sounds like a new visitor to "In The Kitchen". I don't lurk there too often 'cause I need to shed a few pounds. My grandson Cletus(That's his name) says"Geeze, Grandpaw, are you fixin' to have a baby?" I just tell him"Yep, and I think it's gonna be soon 'cause the little fella's already poked one of his legs out."