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waysider

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  1. I never heard anything about physiological changes occurring when I was involved. What was being taught was that access was facilitated by fellowship status and could fluctuate. It was referred to as a "trap door" and your fellowship status determined whether or not the trap door was open. The seed term was used to suggest a person had been born again of the seed of the devil. This is what was taught to be irreversible. Sorry if this seems off-topic, but if we are drawing parallels between cult recovery and alcoholism recovery, it seems inevitable that tangent discussion will pop up.
  2. I read the link. I'm not sure I see the connection between Hobbes and what he's trying to say unless he's trying to convey a similarity in the centralization of absolute power. "Read it while you can. The adversary is trying hard to take down this 30 year old website." No fears. I've committed the entirety of it to floppy.
  3. That's why I said "As per" and "supposedly".
  4. As per the Advanced Class, it supposedly causes an insatiable thirst in those it possesses.
  5. Yes, This, as well as the revelation manifestation definitions, is a cut and paste from another source that I don't recall at the moment. It's been documented here for anyone so inclined to investigate.
  6. There's supposed to be reasoning?
  7. There is a page in the Advanced Class syllabus that lists specific devil spirits that are responsible for various conditions. The spirit of Leviathan is listed as the spirit responsible for alcoholism. So, this is where it gets really messy. Wierwille was the epitome of several of the spirits listed on that page. It presents a grave dilemma. 1. Were we following a man who was possessed? 2. Why didn't anyone get revelation of this via Discerning of Spirits? 3. Was he simply wrong about this subject ? If he was wrong about this, he could have been wrong about anything and everything, hence the dilemma. Please note: I attacked the methodology, not the man.
  8. Yes and no. What we describe as being blue is found between about 450-485 nm on the visible portion of the EM spectrum . It has always existed there. It's a matter of acquired perception. That's where indoctrination enters the discussion. On a side note: If BB King had lived in ancient times, would he have sung "How Grey Can You Get?"?
  9. One of the key elements of AA is to have attendees meet frequently to reinforce a certain mindset. Why does that sound familiar?
  10. It diminishes their sense of self-worth to consider they might be wrong.
  11. Remember William Huang, the guy who is noted for his American Idol audition that featured him covering Ricky Martin's "She Bangs"? He was seemingly oblivious to his own lack of talent. Was it all a spoof or did he succumb to the Dunning-Kruger Effect? I'm just sayin'.
  12. Instead of a bong, they'll be passing around a bottle of Prevagen.
  13. Banality of evil[edit] Arendt's book [Eichmann in Jerusalem] introduced the expression and concept of the banality of evil.[7] Her thesis is that Eichmann was actually not a fanatic or a sociopath, but instead an extremely average and mundane person who relied on clichéd defenses rather than thinking for himself, was motivated by professional promotion rather than ideology, and believed in success which he considered the chief standard of "good society".[8] Banality, in this sense, does not mean that Eichmann's actions were in any way ordinary, or even that there is a potential Eichmann in all of us, but that his actions were motivated by a sort of complacency which was wholly unexceptional.[9] Many mid-20th century pundits were favorable to the concept.[10][11]
  14. Mike Have you ever taken a step back and looked at the absurdity of some of the nonsense you post here? I mean, you're not a sage or a prophet or someone who has stumbled upon the ultimate source of wisdom for all ages. PFAL is just another one of thousands of bible classes that have come and gone. Yes, it presents some controversial, unorthodox concepts that go against the flow of mainstream Christianity. Beyond that? Well, it's just another bible class and not a particularly good one at that. Perhaps if you didn't devalue critical thinking so much you might be able to recognize that. Then again, maybe you have too much invested in your quest to ever consider that.
  15. How did ANY of us get duped by VPW? I don't know. Conmen have a way, that transcends simple explanation, of making you abandon logic and reason.
  16. Have you considered sales could be slow because people may not be interested in the subject matter?
  17. Salesman: You should buy this car. Me: Why? Salesman: I can't tell you.
  18. Sounds like a description of FellowLaborers. (Only 2 per room, on bunkbeds, though. Everything else...pretty much the same.)
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